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Old 05-17-2018, 05:33 AM  
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Kremlin Used NRA to Help Trump in 2016, Senate Report Says

Kremlin Used NRA to Help Trump in 2016, Senate Report Says



The Senate Judiciary Committee said Wednesday that the Russian government apparently used the National Rifle Association to help Donald Trump’s presidential campaign in 2016.

Documents suggest the Kremlin used the NRA to offer the campaign a back channel to Moscow—including a potential meeting between Trump and Vladimir Putin—and might have secretly funded Trump’s campaign, the committee said. One of the Russians named in the report even bragged she was part of the Trump campaign’s communications with Russia, The Daily Beast reported last year.

The NRA spent a record $30 million on Trump and the FBI is reportedly investigating whether any of the money came from Russia. U.S. law prohibits foreign money to be spent on elections.

Two Russian nationals figure prominently in the alleged scheme: Alexander Torshin, deputy governor of the Kremlin’s central bank, and his then-deputy Maria Butina.

Torshin met Donald Trump Jr. at the NRA’s 2016 convention in Kentucky and hosted an NRA delegation in Moscow in 2015. Torshin was previously accused by Spanish investigators of laundering money for Russian mobsters, an allegation he denied. (Last month he was sanctioned by the U.S.)

Butina founded a pro-gun group in Russia before coming to the United States in 2015 when she immediately began ingratiating herself in conservative circles. Butina started a business with NRA member and GOP activist Paul Erickson.

In May 2016, the same month Torshin met Trump Jr. at the NRA convention, Erickson emailed a Trump advisor about setting up a meeting between the candidate and Putin.

“Putin is deadly serious about building a good relationship with Mr. Trump,” he wrote, according to the New York Times. “He wants to extend an invitation to Mr. Trump to visit him in the Kremlin before the election.”

The judiciary committee’s report was released on the same day the Senate intelligence committee broke with Republicans on the House intelligence committee and said Russia clearly favored Trump in the 2016 election.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/kremli...ence-committee

https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...ection-w520386
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Old 05-17-2018, 03:32 PM   #31
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Old 05-17-2018, 03:42 PM   #32
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It's not illegal for the NRA to accept donations from a foreign person. It could be illegal to spend that money on the election. So how does one propose to prove that they took foreign contributions and that the same money was spent on the election? Did they turn up at a TV station and buy an ad with rubles?

Even if someone was using the NRA like the Clinton Foundation, to funnel foreign money into an election effort, good luck with that.

Nothing more than an effort to kill "Two Birds with one stone" The left despises both Trump AND the NRA.

If I'm not mistaken - the NRA is a PRIVATE ORGANIZATION that doesn't answer to anyone but their Board of Directors and their Members (Of which I am a Life member).

And, as you said - it is not illegal for them to accept donations from anyone - regardless of who that may be.
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Old 05-17-2018, 05:45 PM   #33
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No f-ing shit. NRA was totally going to back the Hilldog until Russian interference!
The article doesn't say anything like that.

It says the NRA were allegedly using themselves as a back channel to the Kremlin for Trump.

Not that the NRA only supported Trump to appease Putin.
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Old 05-17-2018, 05:49 PM   #34
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OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE THE NRA HAS NOT BEEN ABOLISHED AND TRUMP HAS NOT BEEN IMPEACHED!

The IG report can't come out soon enough. JFC.
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Old 05-17-2018, 05:49 PM   #35
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The article doesn't say anything like that.

It says the NRA were allegedly using themselves as a back channel to the Kremlin for Trump.

Not that the NRA only supported Trump to appease Putin.
So it is even more far fetched than my ridiculous post.
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Old 05-17-2018, 05:52 PM   #36
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Old 05-18-2018, 08:11 AM   #37
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:15 PM   #38
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It's not illegal for the NRA to accept donations from a foreign person. It could be illegal to spend that money on the election. So how does one propose to prove that they took foreign contributions and that the same money was spent on the election? Did they turn up at a TV station and buy an ad with rubles?

Even if someone was using the NRA like the Clinton Foundation, to funnel foreign money into an election effort, good luck with that.
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Old 05-18-2018, 05:23 PM   #41
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All these stories walk past the fact that, even if true, Hillary took far more money and spent far more money and still lost.
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Old 05-18-2018, 09:30 PM   #42
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The article doesn't say anything like that.

It says the NRA were allegedly using themselves as a back channel to the Kremlin for Trump.

Not that the NRA only supported Trump to appease Putin.
He's using sarcasm—which has truth in it.
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Old 05-18-2018, 09:31 PM   #43
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Oops, sorry you handled it Lawrence. I starting ready from the last post backwards seeing it after I posted.
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