An NFL insider rips Pioli for letting quality players go

[Quesadilla Joe]

The following quotes are from NFL scouts, coaches and front-office personnel, speaking on the condition of anonymity:

• “When you are $20 million-$25 million under the cap, you can’t afford to let a homegrown guy like Brandon Carr get out of the building. Carl Peterson drafted him in the fifth round — (GM) Scott (Pioli) didn’t draft him. (Carr) is a bona fide starter and he is young and you let him get away on his first contract without getting anything in return? Go and pay him, especailly if he is so far under the cap. You are going to bring in Stanford Routt, who is getting diced by whoever he is lining up against and expect the same results? Routt can’t cover himself up at night. He is like that great mule everyone wants to ride. They could have had their two corners locked up for at least 4-5 years with (Brandon) Flowers and Carr. Instead, Carr is down in Dallas having a good season. Brian Waters had a great year in New England last year. How many good years (in Atlanta) has Tony Gonzalez had now? Enough said.”

http://www.profootballweekly.com/201...op-cornerbacks

[loochy]

but blah blah we can't spend a lot of money on secondary because we have to spend it on something else! these are rules that I read somewhere!

[KCUnited]

The Childhood Dream Premium is steep.

[The Bad Guy]

I know paying corners that much is absurd, but the Chiefs should not have let Carr get away. He's a lock down corner in every sense of the word.

Honestly, Carr is better than Flowers.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I know paying corners that much is absurd, but the Chiefs should not have let Carr get away. He's a lock down corner in every sense of the word.

Honestly, Carr is better than Flowers.

Carr is more physically gifted with bigger upside than Flowers.

Flowers is the more consistent and rounded player...

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I know paying corners that much is absurd, but the Chiefs should not have let Carr get away. He's a lock down corner in every sense of the word.

Honestly, Carr is better than Flowers.

Contrary to this report, Carr has been getting burnt up in Dallas.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Contrary to this report, Carr has been getting burnt up in Dallas.

This.

I wasn't too upset they let him go. You can win a super bowl with a guy like Routt as your #2. The thing that sucks is the money saved from not signing Carr wasn't used to get Manning or extend Bowe.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

This.

I wasn't too upset they let him go. You can win a super bowl with a guy like Routt as your #2. The thing that sucks is the money saved from not signing Carr wasn't used to get Manning or extend Bowe.

Can win one easier with two corners the quality of Flowers and Carr.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by TEX

Can win one easier with two corners the quality of Flowers and Carr.

Maybe. It's not like the Giants, Colts, or Steelers had great corners and when Green Bay won the title Woodson was out for most of the game.

[Buckweath]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

This.

I wasn't too upset they let him go. You can win a super bowl with a guy like Routt as your #2. The thing that sucks is the money saved from not signing Carr wasn't used to get Manning or extend Bowe.

Agree. Carr or no Carr doesn't change much for this team, even though I really liked Carr.

It's all about getting that above-average QB and a good HC now. I'm still convinced that this team has top 10 talent outside of QB but definitly, some guys have underachieved.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I know paying corners that much is absurd, but the Chiefs should not have let Carr get away. He's a lock down corner in every sense of the word.

Honestly, Carr is better than Flowers.

I screamed and screamed that we should have kept Carr AND brought in Routt, and got flamed for it. We certainly had the cap space. Matter of fact, the abscence of Carr may be why we haven't had the ability to blitz like we did in the second half of the season last year when our defense really stepped up.

And the Gonzalez thing is inexcusable, particularly when you turn him into Javier Arenas. Possibly one of the worst trades this team has ever made.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Bowser

I screamed and screamed that we should have kept Carr AND brought in Routt, and got flamed for it. We certainly had the cap space. Matter of fact, the abscence of Carr may be why we haven't had the ability to blitz like we did in the second half of the season last year when our defense really stepped up.

And the Gonzalez thing is inexcusable, particularly when you turn him into Javier Arenas. Possibly one of the worst trades this team has ever made.

I was with you on Carr.

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I know paying corners that much is absurd, but the Chiefs should not have let Carr get away. He's a lock down corner in every sense of the word.

Honestly, Carr is better than Flowers.

Not anymore, especially in a pass happy qb league.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I know paying corners that much is absurd, but the Chiefs should not have let Carr get away. He's a lock down corner in every sense of the word.

Honestly, Carr is better than Flowers.

I got blasted for making that last statement a few months ago. You simply cannot let the hardest working man on your football team walk away.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I got blasted for making that last statement a few months ago. You simply cannot let the hardest working man on your football team walk away.

Exactly!!

And imagine how much more imaginative the defense could be - I mean, the defense RAC usually wants to go with, the DBs are expected to be flexible, as in play either S or CB (there is no true 'FS' or 'SS' in that D - both are expected to cover either side depending on the situation) - Berry is that guy (when he's 100% - and he's not right now) and Carr TOTALLY was that guy.

Carr could play either side CB, S or Nickel without being a liability at any (I'm talking to you, Travis Daniels and Javier Arenas); he could man up, and cover his zone. One-on-one or playing underneath assignments...

He was a model teammate and one of the most versatile and complete football players on the team...

and they let him walk, and signed a man-to-man cover corner who struggles with reads and zones.

Awesome.

Routt should've been a nickle back here, and Travis Daniels should be working at Home Depot.

But no, it's a process.