Anybody still think Haley shouldn't have been fired?

[King_Chief_Fan]

I say he should have and am glad he is gone.

There he was front and center, the new OC of the Steelers playing Monday night to a national audience and his chance to bury the team that fired him for being the hack that he his. That is the best he could do against a 1-8 team? Those little passes sideways sure reminded me of the good ol days of him in KC. He didn't fool the Chiefs once with that lunacy.

A very poor effort indeed guiding an offense against the worst team in the NFL. His scheme to protect the QB didn't work out to well.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Lou_Zare

milkman & myself, bosschief & Dave, other posters here have pointed out how you manipulate to make your points. you're a ****ing liar dane. I hate liars. but what the hell, I don't know you other than the bullshit you spew here so don't take it personally. but here in this domain, you lie like a ****ing dog when you want to.

**** you.

Outside of the first month I was here, I have NO PROBLEMS with Dane and even when we disagree, there is usually a mutual respect there. Keep my name out of your mouth.

Go back to the coalition, bitch.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Clancy Pentegast was never hired to be the defensive coordinator. He was hired to be a position coach while Pioli was still trying to hire Romeo to run the defense.

He was named the defensive coordinator weeks after being under contract in KC and Haley said multiple times during that span that "they" were still looking for a "DC".

It was only after Romeo publicly turned down the job that Clancy was named to the position.

Yeah...Pioli was a giant bag of douche from the get-go.

Haley was ****ed through the drive-thru before this thing even got started.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by milkman

Actually, Dane and I have had a pretty civil debate.

I haven't pointed out any manipulation.

I have stated strongly my disagreement, but I respect his opinions enough to keep it civil.

I should have kept reading the thread, then I could have just said this.

I'm sick and tired of these coalition posters trying to use me as a cosigner...

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

He just puts more blame on Haley than some of the rest of us. He is entitled to his opinion. I know he can be harsh but I think he is just frustrated with it all. Haley is part of that. He might not of had final say or whatever. But Haley was the HC and those decisions should of come down to him. I think Haley being a rookie HC was basicly being lead by Pioli.

I have first-hand personal accounts of Haley and Pioli literally screaming obscenities at each other, constantly...until they quit talking to each other completely around week 5 of last year.

Haley, along with every single other employee of Chiefs/Arrowhead, got ****ed.

Promise.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Lou_Zare

these are facts that elude dane the incredible pussytard.

Once again, LOSER, shut the **** UP

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by BossChief

**** you.

Outside of the first month I was here, I have NO PROBLEMS with Dane and even when we disagree, there is usually a mutual respect there. Keep my name out of your mouth.

Go back to the coalition, bitch.

I said you made good points, but you are an ass and I'll mention you whenever I like.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by BossChief

You know what Id loved to have seen?

Todd Haley with a LEGIT QB prospect in KC.

Look at what he has done EVERYWHERE ELSE he a has had one of those.

How much of "Haley's success" is due to Haley?

An elite QB can overcome a dipshit HC/OC (Peyton).

A good HC/OC can design an offense around the shortfalls of his QB and be competitive (Harbaugh/Smith).

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

He just puts more blame on Haley than some of the rest of us. He is entitled to his opinion. I know he can be harsh but I think he is just frustrated with it all. Haley is part of that. He might not of had final say or whatever. But Haley was the HC and those decisions should of come down to him. I think Haley being a rookie HC was basicly being lead by Pioli.

I agree. but I still think dane is a cocksmoocher.

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by jd1020

How much of "Haley's success" is due to Haley?

An elite QB can overcome a dipshit HC/OC (Peyton).

A good HC/OC can design an offense around the shortfalls of his QB and be competitive (Harbaugh/Smith).

no, the 49ers are designed around that fierce defense.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Lou_Zare

no, the 49ers are designed around that fierce defense.

Explain why it never came together until Harbaugh came to town.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel

Yeah...Pioli was a giant bag of douche from the get-go.

Haley was ****ed through the drive-thru before this thing even got started.

He really was.

1) Pioli traded for Cassel before Haley was hired.

2) Pioli wanted to force Romeo on Haley in 2009 and even after Romeo turned down the job, Pioli didnt want anyone else hired so the door would be open the following year when Romeo was healthy enough to take the job...therefore Clancy was promoted after being hired on to be a position coach.

3) Pioli forced Gailey on Haley.

4) Pioli forced Weis on Haley.

5) Pioli made the Tyson Jackson pick when Haley didnt want any part of it.

6) Pioli shot down the idea of signing Hasselback to back up Cassel during the 2011 offseason.


I would love to see Haley in a NORMAL HC POSITION where he could hire his own staff and have a legit QB to work with.

I would be willing to bet almost anything the guy will excel when he gets his chance and that might come as soon as next year.

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Explain why it never came together until Harbaugh came to town.

well, JH did improve the team and it came from some tweaks to the offense -- mainly a boot up their collective ass. Gore is playing better this season, the WR's are playing better also, and of course, Alex Smith is more consistent. But as far as what makes the 49ers a force, it all starts with the defense. JH is a lot like Haley, he has the whole team playing up to speed, just needs to be more consistent.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Explain why it never came together until Harbaugh came to town.

^^^This.

[jd1020]

Tom Coughlin is another coach that comes to mind.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Lou_Zare

well, JH did improve the team and it came from some tweaks to the offense -- mainly a boot up their collective ass. Gore is playing better this season, the WR's are playing better also, and of course, Alex Smith is more consistent. But as far as what makes the 49ers a force, it all starts with the defense.

Do you not think that the draft/FA aquisitions in Rogers, A. Smith, Whitner, Brock, Culliver defensively added to that team?