Some undeniable truths about the Chiefs @ 23. - Page 4

Direckshun · 02-07-2014, 11:49 AM

12 facts that are incontrovertibly true, in my estimation.

1. Andy Reid's offense does not require elite WRs.

2. It does require fast route-runners who can get quick separation.

3. Those types of WRs are all over this draft.

4. The Chiefs are relatively satisfied with their play at CB: Flowers, Smith, and Cooper will be their top three guys in 2014, with Ron Parker up and coming.

5. This draft, like most drafts, is pretty deep at CB.

6. The value at QB, RB, and ILB is pretty weak at 23.

7. Probably will be weak at safety, as well, if Pryor or Clinton-Dix are off the board.

8. It is generally not wise to spend two first rounders at safety in a span of five years.

9. It is very unlikely the Chiefs cut Anthony Fasano. It would only save $1m against the cap.

10. Drafting a TE in the 1st round means that either Fasano ($4.5m in 2014), Kelce (last year's 3rd rounder), or the 1st rounder will become the 3rd TE.

11. The Draft value at OL (both guard and tackle) is very strong in the first couple rounds.

12. The value at DL and OLB is questionable, and will be further clarified after the Combine.

At this point, I would say it is far more likely that the Chiefs bring in OL or DL/OLB than any skill position player.

OldSchool · 02-09-2014, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

Care to enlighten me as to why Donald is a poor fit for KC/ why Hageman/Tuitt are clearly better fits?

Because we played so much in our base 3-4 defense last year. I would take Donald in a heartbeat and let him rush next to Poe in our nickel package which we'll probably be playing in 60% of the time.

Direckshun · 02-10-2014, 06:10 AM

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Care to enlighten me as to why Donald is a poor fit for KC/ why Hageman/Tuitt are clearly better fits?

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I guess it's a bummer we'd have a player to split reps with in Allen Bailey, as well as a DC that utilizes a variable front philosophy, ensuring he's not 2-gapping every single play.

Hey, you would know better than me.

My general line of thinking is that it's a scheme thing. Obviously the Combine could absolve me of these concerns, but it seems like he lacks the length that Tuitt and Hageman have, which limits how well he'd be able to take on tackles.

Ideally, you want a guy in the 1st round who plays 80%ish of your snaps. Not a Tyson Jackson-esque 45%.

Gino-Bartali · 02-10-2014, 06:54 AM

What do you guys think about Ryan Shazier? Any chance to be our #23 pick? He intrigues me, i do not know if he would be a nice fit but with a DC with a creative mind can be a really nice player for any defense.

Direckshun · 02-10-2014, 09:47 AM

I think Shazier is a Top 25 player in this draft. In our defense, he'd play the WILB, however, when we already have DJ for (at least) the next two years.

Some have speculated he could play the Kam Chancellor role at SS, but we have an All Pro at that position already.

Shazier can ball, though.

O.city · 02-10-2014, 11:05 AM

If berry could transition to FS and e as good there as he is at SS, he would make sense

Saccopoo · 02-10-2014, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

If berry could transition to FS and e as good there as he is at SS, he would make sense

If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, wouldn't it be a merry Christmas?

Direckshun · 09-19-2014, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

12 facts that are incontrovertibly true, in my estimation.

1. Andy Reid's offense does not require elite WRs.

2. It does require fast route-runners who can get quick separation.

3. Those types of WRs are all over this draft.

4. The Chiefs are relatively satisfied with their play at CB: Flowers, Smith, and Cooper will be their top three guys in 2014, with Ron Parker up and coming.

5. This draft, like most drafts, is pretty deep at CB.

6. The value at QB, RB, and ILB is pretty weak at 23.

7. Probably will be weak at safety, as well, if Pryor or Clinton-Dix are off the board.

8. It is generally not wise to spend two first rounders at safety in a span of five years.

9. It is very unlikely the Chiefs cut Anthony Fasano. It would only save $1m against the cap.

10. Drafting a TE in the 1st round means that either Fasano ($4.5m in 2014), Kelce (last year's 3rd rounder), or the 1st rounder will become the 3rd TE.

11. The Draft value at OL (both guard and tackle) is very strong in the first couple rounds.

12. The value at DL and OLB is questionable, and will be further clarified after the Combine.

At this point, I would say it is far more likely that the Chiefs bring in OL or DL/OLB than any skill position player.

Ha. Just re-read this.

jd1020 · 09-19-2014, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Ha. Just re-read this.

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

At this point, I would say it is far more likely that the Chiefs bring in OL or DL/OLB than any skill position player.

Really took a risk by going out on that limb and it paid off!

Well done, sir.

**The Franchise** · 09-19-2014, 09:08 AM

Damn....I ****ing called Ford.

**Tribal Warfare** · 09-24-2014, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Damn....I ****ing called Ford.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/bb/showp...4&postcount=20

yep

02-07-2014, 11:49 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4403447	Some undeniable truths about the Chiefs @ 23. 12 facts that are incontrovertibly true, in my estimation. 1. Andy Reid's offense does not require elite WRs. 2. It does require fast route-runners who can get quick separation. 3. Those types of WRs are all over this draft. 4. The Chiefs are relatively satisfied with their play at CB: Flowers, Smith, and Cooper will be their top three guys in 2014, with Ron Parker up and coming. 5. This draft, like most drafts, is pretty deep at CB. 6. The value at QB, RB, and ILB is pretty weak at 23. 7. Probably will be weak at safety, as well, if Pryor or Clinton-Dix are off the board. 8. It is generally not wise to spend two first rounders at safety in a span of five years. 9. It is very unlikely the Chiefs cut Anthony Fasano. It would only save $1m against the cap. 10. Drafting a TE in the 1st round means that either Fasano ($4.5m in 2014), Kelce (last year's 3rd rounder), or the 1st rounder will become the 3rd TE. 11. The Draft value at OL (both guard and tackle) is very strong in the first couple rounds. 12. The value at DL and OLB is questionable, and will be further clarified after the Combine. At this point, I would say it is far more likely that the Chiefs bring in OL or DL/OLB than any skill position player.
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02-10-2014, 09:47 AM	#49
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4403447	I think Shazier is a Top 25 player in this draft. In our defense, he'd play the WILB, however, when we already have DJ for (at least) the next two years. Some have speculated he could play the Kam Chancellor role at SS, but we have an All Pro at that position already. Shazier can ball, though.
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