Misc Conceal Carry weapon choices - Page 9

Holladay · 01-03-2017, 06:50 PM

Probably a re-post, didn't see it after a quick search.

I am buy no means a gun expert but know my way around them (ex-military)

My wife is seriously looking to CC. That thought alone shocked me. She is quite against guns. She is German and with all the issues Germany has now and stuff here in the states, wants to pursue this privilege. I will as well.

Another thought is what is the best way to figure out which states allow. I have surfed the web and it is a bit confusing. She will be house sitting in SC for a month. Thus a long trip by herself through many states. As I understand, KY will prove the hardest state.

I have taken her out in our back 40 to practice. I have a 9mm CZ 75 that I bought while stationed in Germany. It is similar to the Beretta 9mm. She is a natural. The practice and repetition is the key as we all know. It is to big for CC. She will be carrying in her purse..eer er "hand bag" ( I got corrected from a female fashionista).

We are on a budget and not into an elite weapon. Something that goes bang and scares the would be bad guy. I was hoping for less then $400.

We have tried a few different types. Revolver vs Semi. Revolver is simpler but limited ammo. Semi is harder to operate but has more "bangs".

My parents have a Makarov 9x18. I thought it was junk, but find out it is quite decent. It is a Walther PPK variant. Cheap ~$300. I read a review about women and hand guns. The author stated that a point is the strength/size of women's hands. Thus semi is not a good option unless she is a masseuse. I giggled, because she is. Her hands are as big as mine which are medium/large guys paws. She has had a little problem pulling the slide back and on another old (S&W Defender) revolver the trigger squeeze.

I will use the Defender, not necessarily CC, in my car. If I can find ammo for it. That is another problem. The CZ stays at home.

Thoughts?

Radar Chief · 01-11-2017, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Otter

Springfield XD Sub Compact XD .40 3"

http://www.springfield-armory.com/pr...ompact-40-cal/

I could just never get into the Glock feel. Great guns but just don't like the feel of them when shooting as much as the Springfield.

I'd really like to rent one of these at a gun range and try it out.
Shot a buddy's XDs but the single stack mag makes for a thin grip. That plus my big hands and the recoil of a .45 meant I had troubles maintaining a good hold on it for follow up shots. I'm hoping the double stack makes for a fatter grip that I can get a firm grasp on.

**Lzen** · 01-11-2017, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BiStateNo

I hope you'll forgive me for this stupid question, but are you going to the CCW course merely for training? or some other reason? There is Constitutional Carry in Kansas, is the only reason I'm asking..

That means that you can conceal carry in Kansas without a CCL but if you want to travel to other states, it's best to have a Kansas CCL. Most of the country reciprocates with Kansas but Illinois, Oregon, California, and most of the northeast (New England) states do not.

**Lzen** · 01-11-2017, 11:09 AM

https://www.cdnnsports.com/firearms....RMS%2FHANDGUNS

Start there. They have good prices. I'm sure a lot of the other gun enthusiasts here can show more sites that have good prices.
Somebody mentioned the Ruger LCP. This site has it for $230.

Holladay · 01-11-2017, 01:54 PM

Thanks, I will check it out.

Holladay · 01-11-2017, 04:05 PM

BigChiefTablet, I sent you a PM

Holladay · 01-11-2017, 06:19 PM

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Start there. They have good prices. I'm sure a lot of the other gun enthusiasts here can show more sites that have good prices.
Somebody mentioned the Ruger LCP. This site has it for $230.

Heilig Scheiße!

That sight is selling for about 1/3 off. Sweet.

Now I know what I would do with $5,000.

**SAUTO** · 01-11-2017, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

I worry too much about over penetration - 10mm would probably travel through the bad guy and hit 3 more people behind him (sarcasm) but seriously tho that's why I don't really mess around with the 10mm.

Is it wrong that I thought the first line was ****ing hilarious coming from you?

If so I'm at least half sorry...

**SAUTO** · 01-11-2017, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter

Springfield XD Sub Compact XD .40 3"

http://www.springfield-armory.com/pr...ompact-40-cal/

I could just never get into the Glock feel. Great guns but just don't like the feel of them when shooting as much as the Springfield.

I really liked the feel of this gun.

**SAUTO** · 01-11-2017, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

Hilarious and informative video on the Judge

I have that matte stainless in an ultra light, 3 inch cylinder, 3 inch barrel iirc.

I keep it in my tool box with slugs in it.

Holladay · 01-14-2017, 05:28 AM

Just bought a Taurus PT-738 for $200. A mouse gun. I did quite a bit of looking and for the price, a good lil carry in the pocket first CC gun.

First looked at the cheapest CC at Cobra for $99. Cheap piece of crap.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...ndgun-america/

That linked me to:

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...aurus-738-tcp/

The compariables were: SIG P238, Ruger LCP, Kel-Tec P-3AT and the others were LMNOP and XYZ.

Getting my feet wet.

I figure I can't go wrong for $200. Again, this is my first CC gun.

BTW, from all of the others post: The M&P Shield got the most votes, followed by the Springfield XDS, S&W Bodyguard, Ruger LCR, Bunch of Glocks, and Lil Mom's .38 Rev.

In the end, first CC gun. Not my last.

You all have been a GREAT insight to how many variables come into play. The family will go to the CC class and try out other guns to see what fits best. But at this point, if the Taurus is not quite right, throw it in the glove compartment. Better then nothing.

**2112** · 01-14-2017, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dmahurin

Get her a 9mm. Do not get a .40 or .45. Get critical defense ammo and a 9mm will expand to the same size and penetration depth of a .45. The m&p shield or a slringfield xd are great guns. MO and KS do not require a permit or license to concealed carry. The laws on where you can and cant carry are important to know.

Can you carry critical defense ammo? I thought that was for in the home only. At least that's what the laws are here. It's impossible to get concealed carry in my state unless your ex law enforcement or are being stalked.

booger · 10-04-2017, 06:37 AM

https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...pact_17+1_8639

Anyone have or shot one of these?

tx4chiefs · 10-04-2017, 06:51 AM

I carry a Sig Sauer at work (have for 30 years). I prefer Sig firearms for their quality. That said I recommend the Sig Sauer P-239. It's a single stack 9mm comparable to the Glock 43 for size, but way better quality.

https://www.sigsauer.com/products/fi.../pistols/p239/

Chief_For_Life58 · 10-04-2017, 06:56 AM

I wear dress clothes to work everyday. I pocket carry a ruger lcp380. Never leave home without it. Wish I could cc something larger though. Any options for dress clothes?

Reerun_KC · 10-04-2017, 07:31 AM

Rock Island .45. When I feel manliness

Taurus .380 when I feel sexy.

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01-03-2017, 06:50 PM
Holladay Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $2679480	Conceal Carry weapon choices Probably a re-post, didn't see it after a quick search. I am buy no means a gun expert but know my way around them (ex-military) My wife is seriously looking to CC. That thought alone shocked me. She is quite against guns. She is German and with all the issues Germany has now and stuff here in the states, wants to pursue this privilege. I will as well. Another thought is what is the best way to figure out which states allow. I have surfed the web and it is a bit confusing. She will be house sitting in SC for a month. Thus a long trip by herself through many states. As I understand, KY will prove the hardest state. I have taken her out in our back 40 to practice. I have a 9mm CZ 75 that I bought while stationed in Germany. It is similar to the Beretta 9mm. She is a natural. The practice and repetition is the key as we all know. It is to big for CC. She will be carrying in her purse..eer er "hand bag" ( I got corrected from a female fashionista). We are on a budget and not into an elite weapon. Something that goes bang and scares the would be bad guy. I was hoping for less then $400. We have tried a few different types. Revolver vs Semi. Revolver is simpler but limited ammo. Semi is harder to operate but has more "bangs". My parents have a Makarov 9x18. I thought it was junk, but find out it is quite decent. It is a Walther PPK variant. Cheap ~$300. I read a review about women and hand guns. The author stated that a point is the strength/size of women's hands. Thus semi is not a good option unless she is a masseuse. I giggled, because she is. Her hands are as big as mine which are medium/large guys paws. She has had a little problem pulling the slide back and on another old (S&W Defender) revolver the trigger squeeze. I will use the Defender, not necessarily CC, in my car. If I can find ammo for it. That is another problem. The CZ stays at home. Thoughts?
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01-11-2017, 11:09 AM	#123
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01-11-2017, 01:54 PM	#124
Holladay Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $2679480	Thanks, I will check it out.
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01-14-2017, 05:28 AM	#130
Holladay Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $2679480	Just bought a Taurus PT-738 for $200. A mouse gun. I did quite a bit of looking and for the price, a good lil carry in the pocket first CC gun. First looked at the cheapest CC at Cobra for $99. Cheap piece of crap. http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...ndgun-america/ That linked me to: http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...aurus-738-tcp/ The compariables were: SIG P238, Ruger LCP, Kel-Tec P-3AT and the others were LMNOP and XYZ. Getting my feet wet. I figure I can't go wrong for $200. Again, this is my first CC gun. BTW, from all of the others post: The M&P Shield got the most votes, followed by the Springfield XDS, S&W Bodyguard, Ruger LCR, Bunch of Glocks, and Lil Mom's .38 Rev. In the end, first CC gun. Not my last. You all have been a GREAT insight to how many variables come into play. The family will go to the CC class and try out other guns to see what fits best. But at this point, if the Taurus is not quite right, throw it in the glove compartment. Better then nothing.
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10-04-2017, 06:37 AM	#132
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10-04-2017, 06:51 AM	#133
tx4chiefs Starter Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Texas Casino cash: $6666461	I carry a Sig Sauer at work (have for 30 years). I prefer Sig firearms for their quality. That said I recommend the Sig Sauer P-239. It's a single stack 9mm comparable to the Glock 43 for size, but way better quality. https://www.sigsauer.com/products/fi.../pistols/p239/
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10-04-2017, 06:56 AM	#134
Chief_For_Life58 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: KC Casino cash: $9925938	I wear dress clothes to work everyday. I pocket carry a ruger lcp380. Never leave home without it. Wish I could cc something larger though. Any options for dress clothes?
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10-04-2017, 07:31 AM	#135
Reerun_KC Rock Chalk Jayhawks! KU!!! Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $8301160	Rock Island .45. When I feel manliness Taurus .380 when I feel sexy. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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