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Old 07-31-2017, 08:47 AM  
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Old 07-31-2017, 09:57 PM   #61
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The guy played 85 games in 6 seasons for us, and played pretty well. Who was our LT before we drafted him...Jordan Black? He was a good pick and a good player. And we parted ways and replaced him at the right time.
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Old 07-31-2017, 10:12 PM   #62
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The guy played 85 games in 6 seasons for us, and played pretty well. Who was our LT before we drafted him...Jordan Black? He was a good pick and a good player. And we parted ways and replaced him at the right time.
Damien McIntosh.

He wasn't terrible. Until he went to the right side. Then he was terrible.

By the by, it goes without saying, but I'd be remiss if I didn't say it.

**** Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards.
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Old 07-31-2017, 10:15 PM   #63
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Damien McIntosh.

He wasn't terrible. Until he went to the right side. Then he was terrible.

By the by, it goes without saying, but I'd be remiss if I didn't say it.

**** Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards.
Sackintosh was awful.

Maybe the Chiefs worst left tackle of All Time
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Old 08-01-2017, 10:00 AM   #64
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Time is getting away from me...he had 9 years in the league? Holy shit...
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Old 08-01-2017, 10:23 AM   #65
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Which also proved that Trent Green wasn't a thing

17/10 is garbage.

But "Hai Guys, let's pass on Drew Brees for 32 year old Trent Green!".
That's hardly fair. Trent Green was a very good quarterback for this team for 3-4 years. Now I'm universally opposed to trading a 1st rounder for a 31 yr old passer but for a few years he was capable of going toe to toe with the best in the league. He was a limited player, yes, but he was a damn good pure thrower and there weren't many guys in the league at the time that would've been better in this system than he was.

But lord man, he was 35-36 by the time he started to slip; hard to really kill him for losing out to time. All mere mortals do.

Passing on Brees was an obvious, unquestionable mistake (hard to believe they didn't have a plan B until you realize that Mahomes is the first time in our lifetimes that the Chiefs had an obvious succession plan in place). But acting like Green was a scrub isn't fair either - dude could sling it.
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Old 08-01-2017, 10:27 AM   #66
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Roaf could barely move before that camp started. Don't blame him for quitting on Permasuck.
Then retire before the draft. And hell, Roaf couldn't move the last 3-4 years of his career. Every other week we'd read some article about 'warrior Roaf' who looked like a 90 yr old man walking to the huddle and then when the game started exploded.

Guy didn't want to work anymore. He was rich, football is hard - so he quit. That's fine; he certainly has cause to do so. But to do so 2 weeks before training camp and leave your teammates holding the bag and QB exposed is absolute shit.

He's the left tackle. He wasn't a corner or LB or WR - he's a guy who, by quitting, exposed his teammates to genuine physical harm. It took all of, what, 3 weeks for it to happen? And somehow he gets a pass for it. Unreal.
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Old 08-01-2017, 12:39 PM   #67
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Sackintosh was awful.

Maybe the Chiefs worst left tackle of All Time
Was Jordan Black a RT or LT cause that guy was shit too.
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Old 08-01-2017, 01:35 PM   #68
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Black played LT in 06. He gave up something like 13 sacks that year.

Carl reacted by overpaying for Sackintosh, who was better, but not by much.

Then Kyle Turley got thrown somewhere in the mix and you had all the reasons you needed to fire Carl.
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Old 08-01-2017, 02:44 PM   #69
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That's hardly fair.
I've just never been a Trent Green fan and the fact that Vermeil & Peterson passed on Drew Brees in order to "Win Now" probably exacerbates it.
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Old 08-01-2017, 02:49 PM   #70
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I've just never been a Trent Green fan and the fact that Vermeil & Peterson passed on Drew Brees in order to "Win Now" probably exacerbates it.
History repeated itself less egregiously with Smith.

In a vacuum, the Smith trade was defensible but you really would've like to see them hedge it by having another young QB brought in and ready to replace him. But the coaching staff had stars in its eyes and bought into the veteran QB too strongly. So while they liked Carr, they couldn't see past Smith and passed on him.

Well the Green/Brees situation is virtually identical. Carr won't have the career Brees has had (no Raider dicksuckers, he won't; Brees may be the best pure passer in NFL history) and Green was a better QB than Smith. So the cockpunch isn't quite as bad this time around as last.

But man, if they're going to acquire these veteran QBs with 3-5 year shelf lives, it sure would be nice if they'd have done a better job of 'life after veteran' than Vermiel and Reid did. The approaches were defensible but ultimately wrong.
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Old 08-01-2017, 03:22 PM   #71
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Black played LT in 06. He gave up something like 13 sacks that year.

Carl reacted by overpaying for Sackintosh, who was better, but not by much.

Then Kyle Turley got thrown somewhere in the mix and you had all the reasons you needed to fire Carl.
I-65, Sackintosh, Nsuckwe, O'Failaghan, Nowanger, Herb Taylor....man, the Chiefs had some shit O-linemen from about 2005-20010.
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I-65, Sackintosh, Nsuckwe, O'Failaghan, Nowanger, Herb Taylor....man, the Chiefs had some shit O-linemen from about 2005-20010.
Really stunning to go from the incredible lines of Will Shields, Willie Roaf, Dave Szott, Tim Grunhard, John Alt to what that shit was.
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I-65, Sackintosh, Nsuckwe, O'Failaghan, Nowanger, Herb Taylor....man, the Chiefs had some shit O-linemen from about 2005-20010.
Jordan Black?

Edit: missed I-65
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Black played LT in 06. He gave up something like 13 sacks that year.

Carl reacted by overpaying for Sackintosh, who was better, but not by much.

Then Kyle Turley got thrown somewhere in the mix and you had all the reasons you needed to fire Carl.
If your left tackle gives up 13 sacks, there's no such thing as overreacting.
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I-65, Sackintosh, Nsuckwe, O'Failaghan, Nowanger, Herb Taylor....man, the Chiefs had some shit O-linemen from about 2005-20010.
And they sucked so bad they led me to steady full-time employment.
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