New Apple Tablet

[dirk digler]

Cool stuff. On Engadget live right now

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/27/l...est&refresh=30

[Deberg_1990]

Apple officially announce 128GB iPad



The new 128GB versions of the fourth generation iPad will be available starting Tuesday, February 5, in black or white, for a suggested retail price of $799 (US) for the iPad with Wi-Fi model and $929 (US) for the iPad with Wi-Fi + Cellular model


http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/29/a...128gb-for-799/

[PaulAllen]

Yawn. Apple has become the Texarkanas of high end restaurants.

[loochy]

I can't believe people pay this much for that. WTF?

[the Talking Can]

Apple could sell cocks for $1000

[loochy]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

Apple could sell cocks for $1000

their target audience is the type that would have already bought a few of those, if you know what i mean

[AustinChief]

FISH!

The numbers are finally starting to come in for last year and it looks like the iPad took a huge dive in Q4 (compared to "other" tablets) but no clue how the numbers play out regarding our bet. I haven't had time to find accurate numbers much less to crunch them. IDC which (it appears) only tracks the big players and ignores white box completely had iPad at something like 38% so the real numbers are gonna be pretty close I think. My gut still tells me that I was a year too early and that iPad will pull around 20-25%.

If I do lose, I owe you one of these right?

[Fish]

Well every source I looked at showed the iPad firmly ahead. I'm pretty sure it's a done deal.

As far as what tablet. OMG does that come in green?

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by Fish

Well every source I looked at showed the iPad firmly ahead. I'm pretty sure it's a done deal.

As far as what tablet. OMG does that come in green?

They are "ahead" as a single manufacturer for sure... but not "ahead" in the sense of dominating the market as they once did.

Here is the recent report I was citing.

The strength of Apple’s iPad business is collapsing as lower priced, smaller tablets eat into sales, says Citi’s Apple analysts in a new note this morning.

The 9.7-inch iPad’s unit sales were only up 1.8% on a year-over-year basis in the fourth quarter, says Citi, citing IDC data. In developed markets like the U.S. and Japan, unit sales were actually down quite a bit.

The bigger iPad is being replaced by Apple’s iPad Mini, as well as the 7-inch tablets sold by Samsung and Amazon.
According to IDC, Apple has 38.8% of the tablet market, which is industry leading, but is down from its peak of 56.8% in the second quarter of last year. Amazon has 15.5% of the market, and Samsung has 13.1% of the market.

And of course, again, this doesn't count the shadow market which is AT LEAST half of all Android tabs produced. And I don't think this counts Win 7/8 tablets either.. although I think it does count Win RT (all 5 of them that sold). Like I said, it's gonna be closer than the media would lead one to believe.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by Fish

Well every source I looked at showed the iPad firmly ahead. I'm pretty sure it's a done deal.

As far as what tablet. OMG does that come in green?

Hell yeah it does!

[WoodDraw]

Counting white box tablet sales is absurd, IMO. Especially now that respectable Android manufacturers have hit what I'd consider to be "white-box" price territory.

[WoodDraw]

Also, I can't believe Samsung has 13% of the market! Have they ever even made a decent tablet before?

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by WoodDraw

Counting white box tablet sales is absurd, IMO. Especially now that respectable Android manufacturers have hit what I'd consider to be "white-box" price territory.

Except that was the entire premise of the bet from my perspective. I was comparing it to the PC market's expansion. If white box and other tablets were to be excluded I wouldn't have made the bet. Unfortunately it makes compiling accurate data on this hard as hell to do. I'll start to dig into the numbers soon though... the final reports for 2012 are just now coming in.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by WoodDraw

Also, I can't believe Samsung has 13% of the market! Have they ever even made a decent tablet before?

The Notes aren't half bad.. but they have a large share because they make like 30 different tabs just like they do with phones. They throw enough crap out there and some of it is bound to stick.

Again, that 13% is misleading.. it's probably closer to 5 or 6% when you factor in ALL tablets.

[WoodDraw]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

Except that was the entire premise of the bet from my perspective. I was comparing it to the PC market's expansion. If white box and other tablets were to be excluded I wouldn't have made the bet. Unfortunately it makes compiling accurate data on this hard as hell to do. I'll start to dig into the numbers soon though... the final reports for 2012 are just now coming in.

That's fine; I'm no party to the bet. But it's problematic, in my eyes. If I go to China and release a tablet based off of Android 2.3, but with ancient, crap hardware and no access to the Google ecosystem, how do you define that? To me, it's no longer an Android tablet. It's a tablet, based off of Android.

White box computers are completely different from tablets. With computers, you can throw together parts as cheaply as possible, throw on a copy of windows, and sell it to a consumer, and they're part of that ecosystem. With Android, it doesn't work that way.

There are two market share areas I find interesting:

-What ecosystem are people using (iOS, Google experience Android, Amazon Kindle, Windows (lol))?

-And within official Android, what is the market share of the manufacturers?

Beyond that, it's all white noise.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by WoodDraw

That's fine; I'm no party to the bet. But it's problematic, in my eyes. If I go to China and release a tablet based off of Android 2.3, but with ancient, crap hardware and no access to the Google ecosystem, how do you define that? To me, it's no longer an Android tablet. It's a tablet, based off of Android.

White box computers are completely different from tablets. With computers, you can throw together parts as cheaply as possible, throw on a copy of windows, and sell it to a consumer, and they're part of that ecosystem. With Android, it doesn't work that way.

There are two market share areas I find interesting:

-What ecosystem are people using (iOS, Google experience Android, Amazon Kindle, Windows (lol))?

-And within official Android, what is the market share of the manufacturers?

Beyond that, it's all white noise.

Well you are thinking that the bet was Android vs iOs.. it wasn't. It was ANYTHING and EVERYTHING (7" and above) vs iPad. I was actually counting on true Win 8 Pro tablets to hit the market 6 months earlier and make inroads with the enterprise. Obviously that didn't happen, stupid Microsoft.

Also, the White Box tablets have viable ecosystems and are almost all Android 4.0+. They aren't cutting edge but they certainly aren't all garbage either.