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Old 06-16-2018, 04:43 PM  
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So Trump is taking away illegal immigrants children

just because they broke the law.

Well, lets see. If you're an American citizen and you and your spouse are busted for selling drugs what happens to your 5 year old kid?????
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Old 06-17-2018, 07:24 AM   #91
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So, the republicans are in actuality saying “Do what we say, and no one gets hurt.”
I don't know about that, but democrats are in actuality saying "Let them all in. We'll worry about this later never."

Meanwhile, they're happy to see DACA people in jeopardy and foreign children separated from their illegal parents at the border. Politics driven by fake social concern as usual.
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Old 06-17-2018, 07:29 AM   #92
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Old 06-17-2018, 07:35 AM   #93
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Who decided they should be used as pawns?


That would have been the ninth circuit court
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Old 06-17-2018, 07:51 AM   #94
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I don't know about that, but democrats are in actuality saying "Let them all in. We'll worry about this later never."

Meanwhile, they're happy to see DACA people in jeopardy and foreign children separated from their illegal parents at the border. Politics driven by fake social concern as usual.
That’s not what Democrats are saying. You really think their policy is “Let everyone in!”?
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Old 06-17-2018, 07:55 AM   #95
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That’s not what Democrats are saying. You really think their policy is “Let everyone in!”?
Here are the choices I can think of:

1. Enforce the law, which requires separation of kids from illegal parents.
2. Choose not to enforce the law, which means everyone is released inside the US never to appear in court again.
3. Compromise with Trump and change the law in Congress.

My understanding is that democrats oppose 1 and 3. 2 is the only option left. Can you think of an alternative?
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Old 06-17-2018, 08:05 AM   #96
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I remember when there was a ton of anger and angst about this a few years ago.


Oh, wait.





Change the law if you want it fixed. The government has been grossly inept when it comes to illegal immigration for a long time, so I am not surprised they are splitting families. It sucks.
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Old 06-17-2018, 08:15 AM   #97
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I agree. We should change the asylum policy so that only those who show up at our embassies and consulates in their home countries can request asylum, not at the border, can be processed.
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Old 06-17-2018, 08:16 AM   #98
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Who decided they should be used as pawns?
Their parents.
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It's not illegal to request asylum.
Maybe there wouldn't be a problem with seeking asylum if the process wasn't abused by parasites who think they're above the law.

And a man who can't honor a bet he willingly accepted and agreed to has no grounds to hold anyone to respect his viewpoint.

Look in the mirror you loser.
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Old 06-17-2018, 08:51 AM   #102
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Here are the choices I can think of:

1. Enforce the law, which requires separation of kids from illegal parents.
2. Choose not to enforce the law, which means everyone is released inside the US never to appear in court again.
3. Compromise with Trump and change the law in Congress.

My understanding is that democrats oppose 1 and 3. 2 is the only option left. Can you think of an alternative?
Number one is false.
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Old 06-17-2018, 08:55 AM   #103
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You don't think that some of these parents use their children?

Anyway, surely you agree that the parents are ultimately responsible for their childrens' well-being, right?
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Number one is false.
No, it's not. In post 60, Baby Lee explains this.
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You don't think that some of these parents use their children?

Anyway, surely you agree that the parents are ultimately responsible for their childrens' well-being, right?
Here's a even more novel idea: don't shit out a child and then expect someone else to take care of the child if nothing more, for the poor child's sake, like some kind of wild animal. If you're going act like a feral criminal expect to be treated as such.

No one owes you a living or is responsible for your shitty decisions.
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