2013 Sandbox Simulations League 1 Thread - Page 87

DJ's left nut · 12:35 PM

Figured creating a new thread for the upcoming league 1 season would probably help consolidate discussion.

Teams:

Anchorage Roadkill Rabbits lostcause
Austin Armadillos noa
Cedar Rapids Angry Clam Hammers dj56dt58
Chula Vista cripplas mrroandro
Clearwater Donkeys DJsleftnut
Dallas K-Swiss Tubes Zeke
Denver Broncos Wonton prejudice (gochiefs).
Duluth Pillagers rain man
Fort Wayne Dukes jerm
Fort Worth Drifters KCChiefsman
High Point Knob Hills ChiefAshhole20
Independence Vision cdcox
Kansas City Ball Busters Kyle DeLexus
Las Vegas Lonely Strippers sfchief
Overland Park Chiefs Old Dog
Pittsburgh Tacos brorth
Portland Rhein Foster (not a cp member - contact via djsleftnut)
Provo Knuckledraggers rageeumr
Richmond Tigerhawks carlos3652
Springfield Attack bevischief
St Joseph Stetsons austinchief
Topeka Tyrannicide Allen_kccard
Ventura Highways rockchalk
Wichita Potheads Confirmed topher79

Spoiler!

mrroandrro · 06-26-2013, 07:45 AM

I have Danny Woodhead available for trade. I am looking for an offensive tackle, safety or draft pick. Holler at me if u need a RB.

allen_kcCard · 06-26-2013, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by allen_kcCard

And now...

I'll wait for Adam Schefter to break more details, my sources don't have him available for details.

rageeumr · 06-26-2013, 08:11 AM

In a blockbuster move, Provo sends Muhammad Wilkerson and Darnell Dockett to Topeka for Nick Fairley and Kamerion Wimbley. As compensation for the wildly different contract lengths, Topeka also receives a 3rd and a 5th.

Okay guys, I know I am on the short end of this trade, but I want some opinions about how bad I got fleeced. My take is that the talent is about a wash. (Essentially Wilkerson for Fairley and Dockett for Wimbley)

The big roadblock in negotiations was that Fairley was on a 7 year contract and Wilkerson was on a 4. There was also a 1 year difference in Dockett and Wimbley's contracts. Topeka wanted compensation for that difference. That would never happen in the NFL, but it's a little different in Sandbox, where a player is essentially "free" once they sign on the dotted line. So there's a lot of value in picking up a 7 year contract on a younger player.

Basically in the end, I traded a 3rd round pick for 3 years of Fairley and a 5th round pick for 1 year of Wimbley. Fairley has a chance to make that pay off. Wimbley almost certainly won't, but I ended up just agreeing to get the guys I wanted.

Thoughts?

allen_kcCard · 06-26-2013, 08:26 AM

I'm curious too on others' thoughts. The contracts were a pain in the ass because although the players were even, the $80+ difference in those even players was painful and there wasn't any way to compensate for it directly without options to trade for cash considerations. I looked at the cost of signing at those rounds and even then it doesn't come up to $80, and I also have the risk of signing players at those spots that are busts.

TambaBerry · 06-26-2013, 09:09 AM

Idk to me there was no need in draft picks, I think the draft picks are more valuable then cash. Either way though if it helps your team out then thats ok right?

TambaBerry · 06-26-2013, 02:37 PM

Really glad I took the chance on Ballard now. Should be the number 2 tightend unless Gronk can't go.

rageeumr · 06-26-2013, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tambaberry

Either way though if it helps your team out then thats ok right?

In the end, that's what pushed me over the edge. I feel like my team will be better this season. Now maybe come draft time I'll kick myself, but for the short term I improved.

**Rain Man** · 06-26-2013, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rageeumr

In a blockbuster move, Provo sends Muhammad Wilkerson and Darnell Dockett to Topeka for Nick Fairley and Kamerion Wimbley. As compensation for the wildly different contract lengths, Topeka also receives a 3rd and a 5th.

Okay guys, I know I am on the short end of this trade, but I want some opinions about how bad I got fleeced. My take is that the talent is about a wash. (Essentially Wilkerson for Fairley and Dockett for Wimbley)

The big roadblock in negotiations was that Fairley was on a 7 year contract and Wilkerson was on a 4. There was also a 1 year difference in Dockett and Wimbley's contracts. Topeka wanted compensation for that difference. That would never happen in the NFL, but it's a little different in Sandbox, where a player is essentially "free" once they sign on the dotted line. So there's a lot of value in picking up a 7 year contract on a younger player.

Basically in the end, I traded a 3rd round pick for 3 years of Fairley and a 5th round pick for 1 year of Wimbley. Fairley has a chance to make that pay off. Wimbley almost certainly won't, but I ended up just agreeing to get the guys I wanted.

Thoughts?

The contracts complicate things a bit, but I think I like Wilkerson and Dockett more than I like Fairley and Wimbley. Probably a lot more. But I guess it depends on your system.

rageeumr · 06-26-2013, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

The contracts complicate things a bit, but I think I like Wilkerson and Dockett more than I like Fairley and Wimbley. Probably a lot more. But I guess it depends on your system.

It's one of those situations where it really all depends on the simulation. Both those guys are playing out of position in my 4-3. If there's negligible downgrade to play a 3-4 DE as a 4-3 DT, then it was probably a bad move for me. If it's considerable, then I feel like I'm better off.

Fansy the Famous Bard · 06-26-2013, 05:45 PM

Dallas looking for a wide receiver, Tight End, or Running Back.

Positions willing to deal - OLB, DT, MLB

Please PM me.

**Rain Man** · 06-26-2013, 06:12 PM

News Update:

We will be turning on the depth charts, updating player availability by week, and turning on the game planning elements early next week, perhaps as early as Sunday. You can use this to get your team up and running.

Kickoff for Week 1 is currently planned for July 1st. We will play the season relatively quickly because we want to get the 2013 offseason completed (2013 draft) prior to the NFL kickoff.

Good luck, everybody! And remember, you're undefeated right now.

**cdcox** · 06-26-2013, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

News Update:

We will be turning on the depth charts, updating player availability by week, and turning on the game planning elements early next week, perhaps as early as Sunday. You can use this to get your team up and running.

Kickoff for Week 1 is currently planned for July 1st. We will play the season relatively quickly because we want to get the 2013 offseason completed (2013 draft) prior to the NFL kickoff.

Good luck, everybody! And remember, you're undefeated right now.

Slight correction:

Kickoff for Week 1 is currently planned for July 8th.

Also all settings in the game planning will go to default values, so if you have any schemes you're fond of you may want to write them down.

**Rain Man** · 06-26-2013, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox

Slight correction:

Kickoff for Week 1 is currently planned for July 8th.

Also all settings in the game planning will go to default values, so if you have any schemes you're fond of you may want to write them down.

Oh, yeah. That's what I meant to say. I blame this on society's obsession with immediate gratification.

mrroandrro · 06-26-2013, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke

Dallas looking for a wide receiver, Tight End, or Running Back.

Positions willing to deal - OLB, DT, MLB

Please PM me.

Messaged you on the site

Fansy the Famous Bard · 06-27-2013, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mrroandrro

Messaged you on the site

I see no message.

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rageeumr Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: St. Louis :( Casino cash: $9989900	In a blockbuster move, Provo sends Muhammad Wilkerson and Darnell Dockett to Topeka for Nick Fairley and Kamerion Wimbley. As compensation for the wildly different contract lengths, Topeka also receives a 3rd and a 5th. Okay guys, I know I am on the short end of this trade, but I want some opinions about how bad I got fleeced. My take is that the talent is about a wash. (Essentially Wilkerson for Fairley and Dockett for Wimbley) The big roadblock in negotiations was that Fairley was on a 7 year contract and Wilkerson was on a 4. There was also a 1 year difference in Dockett and Wimbley's contracts. Topeka wanted compensation for that difference. That would never happen in the NFL, but it's a little different in Sandbox, where a player is essentially "free" once they sign on the dotted line. So there's a lot of value in picking up a 7 year contract on a younger player. Basically in the end, I traded a 3rd round pick for 3 years of Fairley and a 5th round pick for 1 year of Wimbley. Fairley has a chance to make that pay off. Wimbley almost certainly won't, but I ended up just agreeing to get the guys I wanted. Thoughts?
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06-26-2013, 08:26 AM	#1294
allen_kcCard Veteran Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $4483183	I'm curious too on others' thoughts. The contracts were a pain in the ass because although the players were even, the $80+ difference in those even players was painful and there wasn't any way to compensate for it directly without options to trade for cash considerations. I looked at the cost of signing at those rounds and even then it doesn't come up to $80, and I also have the risk of signing players at those spots that are busts.
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