"I Was An NFL Player Until I Was Fired By Two Cowards and a Bigot"

[Marco Polo]

The Vikings organization and the NFL could be sued if any of this is true from the special teams coordinator.

I can't imagine the depths of lawsuits that would accrue if any leader in my organization said some of the things that the special teams coordinator said.

Not to turn this into a Duck Dynasty/religion conversation but you can have your opinion, you just can't say those vile things ("nuke it until it glows") while representing your organization.

http://deadspin.com/i-was-an-nfl-pla...208214#replies

[Sully]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

This is coming from a Christian. The rest of you should be taking notes. Way to be a good example, Sully. I know you're not looking for this from me, but I can't help it.

I appreciate it. But let's face it, the people who you are talking to don't view me as a "real" Christian, anyway, so it probably falls on deaf ears. I just thought that was a funny parallel.

Hope you had a great holidays.

[Dante84]

Originally Posted by Gravedigger

They are different but the message is the same and there will always be similarities. When the media digs in and makes mountains out of molehills out of things like the Phil Robertson bullshit you open it up for bottom feeders to come along and take advantage of a similar type of topic and get their 15 minutes of fame out of it. Kluwe is one of those individuals, at least that's how he's always come across to me. I don't agree with Phil Robertson, but he's a good person with his own viewpoints, Kluwe is just a douchebag.

A good person who advocates men marrying underage girls?

No, no I don't think he is a good person.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

I'm waiting for a kicker/punter head coach one day. It would be interesting

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Yours is the kind of post that really needs to be pointed out for what it is, which is a steaming pile of hypocritical bullshit.

How so?

[Dante84]

Originally Posted by hometeam

Wrong.

Both employers have every right to reprimand the employees for outside of work related incidents.

Whether you are a bigot or an anti-bigot, your employer can fire your ass for ANYTHING not protected under federal law/state law or contractually. (Contract/union etc) Talking shit about ANYTHING in the media, is not a protected status by the feds.


So yea, it might have been a dick move, but it is EXACTLY the same as Phil Robertson.

No sir, you misunderstand.

It is illegal to tell a subordinate to quit supporting "bundle of stickss" and to tell him that he is going to hell for not accepting Jesus and the bible as the "one truth." Again, allegations, but a legal issue if true.

It's different than the Phil Robertson issue.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Sully

I appreciate it. But let's face it, the people who you are talking to don't view me as a "real" Christian, anyway, so it probably falls on deaf ears. I just thought that was a funny parallel.

Hope you had a great holidays.

They were rough. But the Lord has blessed us this year, and we don't expect it to be a bouquet of roses every day. I do appreciate you asking though. I enjoyed seeing pictures of you and yours over the holidays, and it looked like they were great for ya'll, and you deserve it. You wonderful, good hearted, CHRISTIANS, you.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Dante84

No sir, you misunderstand.

It is illegal to tell a subordinate to quit supporting "pillowbiters" and to tell him that he is going to hell for not accepting Jesus and the bible as the "one truth." Again, allegations, but a legal issue if true.

It's different than the Phil Robertson issue.

As much as I wish you were correct, I don't think you are. Sexual preference applies to those who prefer, not those who stand up for them. As far as I know. Would love to be told I'm wrong, and have it substantiated. Believe that.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Dante84

A good person who advocates men marrying underage girls?

No, no I don't think he is a good person.

“So Phil Robertson says men should marry girls when they're 15 years old. Can anyone tell if this is a ‘joke,’ or ‘comedy?’...”

According to People magazine, Robertson shared the exact same sentiment in his book "Happy, Happy, Happy: My Life and Legacy as the Duck Commander." In the book, he writes that the idea of a 20 year old marrying for money is a joke.

"Now, that's a joke, and a lot of people seem to laugh at it, but there is a certain amount of truth in it," he writes of his suggestion to marry a 15 year old.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...hen-are-15-or/

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Gravedigger

And Kluwe has constantly put himself out there. This wasn't a leaked email, this was an open letter, placed out there by him. Accusing an organization of deliberately getting rid of him based on his views of same sex equality. He accuses the ST coach of saying some pretty terrible things, not saying he's lying, but in the end he's saying that Spielman AND Frazier were cowards and that they said if the SPECIAL TEAMS COACH, I highlighted it to show the insignificance of the ST coaches opinion about the views of the Punter, believed that he shouldn't be on the team because of said views, then they were fine with that. It's all a little too far fetched in my personal opinion.

Kluwe has no proof, it's one guys story, and I don't trust his story. If I had to put my thumb down on his Character, I'd say he's that guy who has burned some bridges in his time with the Vikings in more ways than one. Maybe he was a problem in the locker room, constantly caused problems by being so outspoken and accusing people of being something that they aren't. He's already shown that he's that guy that your word is never safe around him. If you say that you hate gays, and you think you're around the fellas and they know the way things go, well that's not the case. Call out the Special Teams coach, that's fine, but to outright call the Coach and GM cowards? None too smart, good luck getting a job in the future Chris Kluwe.

Do you believe in equal rights for everyone?

[RealSNR]

This hasn't been brought up yet, but you all do know that Mike Priefer used to coach for the Chiefs, right?

He was Vermeil's ST coach.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Kluwe's mind doesn't meat (see what I did there) their agenda. Right?

I haven't read this thread. I have one question. Are the homophobes (all in the name of solid Christian thinking of course) making their positions clear?

They are making themselves clear.

1. People that say homophobic things should be defended because they are just using their free speech rights and it is wrong to criticize them.

2. People who speak out against homophobia should be fired and never work again. And be criticized.

That about sums up their arguments.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

How so?

Multiple levels. Talking about their "own reward" is really no different than "You'll burn in hell", for example.

People who demand tolerance are hypocrites. They don't want tolerance. They want full acceptance of only their point of view. If they were really about tolerance, they wouldn't be atacking people who opposed their position just for opposing their position.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

oh, quit ****ing whining.

Your hate for anyone (including me) that disagrees with you is eating you up inside, whether you realize it or not.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Yours is the kind of post that really needs to be pointed out for what it is, which is a steaming pile of hypocritical bullshit.

What is hypocritical? I haven't criticized Kluwe or Robertson. I've just pointed out the hypocrisy of those that criticize one while making the other some kind of hero.

You need to look up the definition of "hypocritical".

[Dante84]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...hen-are-15-or/

He married his wife when she was 16.

Also, Fox is a joke. (So is msnbc)