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Old 06-29-2015, 02:58 PM  
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"Alex Smith makes your defense better"
Article from Arrowhead Pride. Talks of the apparent positive effects of Smith's game on the defense.

This won't change any minds... Smith-baters have been saying this for a while now, but at least someone put it on paper and put some numbers to it for discussion.

Have at it everyone...

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Old 06-29-2015, 05:35 PM   #46
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"Hidden" touchdowns.......


That stat must be listed next to "Hidden" playoff wins.
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Old 06-29-2015, 05:38 PM   #47
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"Hidden" touchdowns.......


That stat must be listed next to "Hidden" playoff wins.
They're on the mantle next to his "hidden" testicles.
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Old 06-29-2015, 05:42 PM   #48
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They're on the mantle next to his "hidden" testicles.
I can't wait until we see the wide frame still photos of Maclin having 10 yards of separation 50 yards downfield during another Alex checkdown.


Damn I have gotten bitter this offseason.....WTF?
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Old 06-29-2015, 05:43 PM   #49
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"Hidden" touchdowns.......


That stat must be listed next to "Hidden" playoff wins.
I don't buy into that. Just like I hate when people claim Alex Smith was a game manager in 2013 during the 9-0 start. In 2013, Smith was a shitty QB during that 9-0 run. At the end of 2014, Smith was a shitty QB. You know what the difference was? In the 9-0 run in 2013 and the end of 2014, Alex Smith tried to manage games but had something like a 25-30% third down conversion %. During the Chiefs' impressive stretch in 2014, he was something like 50%. At the end of 2013... who cares, because he wasn't managing games.

Last year, we saw some pretty impressive grinder games from our offense. And we saw ones that were really frustrating to watch. When Alex Smith converts third downs, this team is really good. When he doesn't, they're frustrating to watch but still keep games close.
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Old 06-29-2015, 05:57 PM   #50
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I can't wait until we see the wide frame still photos of Maclin having 10 yards of separation 50 yards downfield during another Alex checkdown.


Damn I have gotten bitter this offseason.....WTF?
All 22 gonna' be guuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuud....
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Old 06-29-2015, 05:59 PM   #51
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It's a team game for a reason. I'd just like to point out, Matthew Stafford has been doing the whole 'gunslinger' think that so many clamor for and it has equated to 2, TWO winning seasons in his career. Smith has 4 consecutive now. Last year, Stafford's defense was better than ours from an all around perspective.

I don't give a damn if the guy can lead the team from behind 17 points if we're never behind much to begin with, which we never have been the last two years. See 2011 49ers as always. The hidden touchdown thing is real, and if you can't see how not turning the ball over on your own 20 doesn't help your team, then you can't see anything.

I do however expect and want Smith to take more shots with the improved cast around him.
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Old 06-29-2015, 06:02 PM   #52
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I can't wait until we see the wide frame still photos of Maclin having 10 yards of separation 50 yards downfield during another Alex checkdown.


Damn I have gotten bitter this offseason.....WTF?
I would rather watch a Syfy original movie than see an Alex Smith deep ball
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Old 06-29-2015, 06:04 PM   #53
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I would rather watch a Syfy original movie than see an Alex Smith deep ball
Talk me down PG. I was alright with Alex for a while, and now I am constantly dogging him.


WTF is the deal?
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Old 06-29-2015, 06:06 PM   #54
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Old 06-29-2015, 06:47 PM   #55
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Sustaining long drives that end in 7, having fewer 3, 4 & 5 play drives that end in punts and generally doing things that keep the defense off the field and rested late in games does a lot more to help, as does building leads and forcing the opponents out of their gameplans. The idea of limiting turnovers is generally something you talk about when you're rationalizing about the performance of a limited player.
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Old 06-29-2015, 06:55 PM   #56
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But INT's are the debbil! (you'll need to click the link to read the tables)

http://www.footballperspective.com/g...ons-overrated/
It's what I like the most about Luck-win or lose, he's GOING to take some shots.

I'll accept the bad because the good far outweighs it.
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I always think this board greatly underrates turnovers, but the QB would help the defense most by sustaining drives and scoring points.
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It's what I like the most about Luck-win or lose, he's GOING to take some shots.

I'll accept the bad because the good far outweighs it.
I just can not agree with this.

Brett Favre was the ultimate gunslinger, and his lack of ball security almost certainly cost the Packers numerous opportunities in the playoffs.

Alex Smith is at the total opposite end if the spectrum however.

There is a happy medium.

We want a QB that weighs ball security with calculated risk.

Alex Smith never pushes the envelope, so when the time comes to push, he can't even find it.
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I just can not agree with this.

Brett Favre was the ultimate gunslinger, and his lack of ball security almost certainly cost the Packers numerous opportunities in the playoffs.

Alex Smith is at the total opposite end if the spectrum however.

There is a happy medium.

We want a QB that weighs ball security with calculated risk.

Alex Smith never pushes the envelope, so when the time comes to push, he can't even find it.
This. As much as people want to bash the article, it is true. Alex does help the defense by not turning the ball over. Hell that was even said a few times as a credit to Russell Wilson.

But Alex DOES need to push the ball. While he can help the defense by not turning the ball over, he does hurt the offense at times by not being as aggressive as he should. A risky throw here and there can result in a big play and will also result in the short routes opening up and our playmakers having more room to make plays as well.
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It's all about the "Hidden" points he's scoring. I mean, you can basically add 16 "Hidden" TDs to his yearly totals. He's like the best in the game at scoring hidden TDs that never actually existed. If it weren't for the fact that they were invisible "Hidden" TDs, his TD total would almost be right up there with the best QBs in the league.



How can anyone argue with these "Hidden" points?
Because if it were true. The chiefs would be the top scoring team in football. They are not even close.

he is what he is. A game manager. Never going to beat a playoff quality team when it counts. But wont lose those games to shitty teams either.


he has it in him to be a better player. The denver kc example is perfect of him.
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