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ShowtimeSBMVP · 08:33 AM

Police: Man who died at Arrowhead was in a vehicle similar to one he arrived in
December 3
BY CHRISTINE VENDEL
The Kansas City Star

A Smithville man who was found in someone else’s Jeep and then died in a struggle outside Arrowhead Stadium Sunday had gone to the game in a similar vehicle that was parked nearby, police said Tuesday.

The Jeep also showed no signs of a break-in, leading police to believe it may have been left unlocked when Kyle Van Winkle, 30, climbed in and sat down.

Police released the additional details Tuesday as they continued to investigate what led to the death of Van Winkle, who had attended the Chiefs game against the Denver Broncos with relatives.

Detectives planned to interview relatives Tuesday to determine when they last saw him inside the stadium.

Police were called to Lot A of the Truman Sports Complex about 5:20 p.m. Sunday on a disturbance. Witnesses told police the Jeep owner had returned to his vehicle with his son, who is about 10 years old, when they realized a stranger was inside. The boy summoned help from several tail-gaters and they engaged in a struggle with Van Winkle, who had been sitting in the Jeep. Van Winkle collapsed and later died at a hospital.

Police did not say how Van Winkle died, but they said his body bore no signs of obvious injury.

Officers arrested three men shortly after the death, but they had to track down the fourth man who was arrested. Police searched one man’s home in Independence on Monday.

Detectives released three of the men Monday night and the fourth man Tuesday morning, pending further investigation.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/12/03...#storylink=cpy

tooge · 12-01-2013, 08:16 PM

We had a dead battery and got assistance from a fan assistance vehicle. He told us good thing we weren't in A lot because it was shut off as a homocide scene. Horrible

Simply Red · 12-01-2013, 08:17 PM

Ban cars and Parking lots.

Raiderhater · 12-01-2013, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

What's one thief more or less?

Apparently a lot.

Bambi · 12-01-2013, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

Obviously that is true. But if you get killed in the process of committing a crime, people aren't going to be inclined to feel sorry for you.

It's not "feeling sorry for anyone". It's trying to protect a civilized society that we've spent the better part of 500 years trying to move away from.

I'll allow the facts to be collected but this sounds like the "father/son" may be a bit more at fault due simply to the fact that they beat a man to death 2 on 1.

If it's a 1 on 1 situation I think that's completely different. But let's see.

Raiderhater · 12-01-2013, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red

Ban cars and Parking lots.

Ban Chiefs games.

Pablo · 12-01-2013, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader

Anyone who doesn't have that response has some kind of issue. You get up and go to work every day and EARN your possessions and some asshole thinks it is ok to just come and take it instead of going through the same hard work to get his/her own? **** that shit.

It's not ok if somebody breaks into my car and steals whatever bullshit I have in there.

I don't feel they should die if they do, though.

Call me crazy. I've had shit stolen from my car before. I wasn't actively searching for them or wishing they were dead. Just used my insurance.

12-01-2013, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi

You believe all people who steal should be put to death?

Or at a minimum death is a suitable result of people in the act of stealing something?

You truly think that?

I don't think they should die but I think their feet should be chopped off in a horrific roller coaster accident.

stonedstooge · 12-01-2013, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi

It's not "feeling sorry for anyone". It's trying to protect a civilized society that we've spent the better part of 500 years trying to move away from.

I'll allow the facts to be collected but this sounds like the "father/son" may be a bit more at fault due simply to the fact that they beat a man to death 2 on 1.

If it's a 1 on 1 situation I think that's completely different. But let's see.

Bambi · 12-01-2013, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

What's one thief more or less?

You've never committed a crime in your life? Would you like you life to be taken in the same dismissed tone as you've just done with this man's?

I'm not saying this was a good guy or anything but have some ****ing decency.

Eleazar · 12-01-2013, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi

It's not "feeling sorry for anyone". It's trying to protect a civilized society that we've spent the better part of 500 years trying to move away from.

I'll allow the facts to be collected but this sounds like the "father/son" may be a bit more at fault due simply to the fact that they beat a man to death 2 on 1.

If it's a 1 on 1 situation I think that's completely different. But let's see.

It could have been anything. They confront thief, thief attacks them, dad lays him out with one punch. Thief hits his head and never gets up.

Or it could be a couple of drunken rednecks beat somebody to death when they could have just beaten him almost to death.

I bet there weren't any other people around, so I doubt we'll ever know.

Raiderhater · 12-01-2013, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo

It's not ok if somebody breaks into my car and steals whatever bullshit I have in there.

I don't feel they should die if they do, though.

Call me crazy. I've had shit stolen from my car before. I wasn't actively searching for them or wishing they were dead. Just used my auto insurance.

Actively searching for them? According to current reports they found him IN the car. You make it sound like he was hunted down The Searchers style.

**Rain Man** · 12-01-2013, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi

It's not "feeling sorry for anyone". It's trying to protect a civilized society that we've spent the better part of 500 years trying to move away from.

I'll allow the facts to be collected but this sounds like the "father/son" may be a bit more at fault due simply to the fact that they beat a man to death 2 on 1.

If it's a 1 on 1 situation I think that's completely different. But let's see.

If it's a 1 on 1 beating of a thief it's okay, but not 2 on 1? I would think that 2 on 1 is more civilized because it shows an ability to cooperate with other people and build alliances.

Hammock Parties · 12-01-2013, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge

Did someone have a hit out on Clay?

Manning put a hit out on my heart.

Pablo · 12-01-2013, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader

Actively searching for them? According to current reports they found him IN the car. You make it sound like he was hunted down The Searchers style.

I'm just letting you know the amount of outrage I had in my own personal situation. I didn't walk up on somebody breaking into my car.

**Rain Man** · 12-01-2013, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

It could have been anything. They confront thief, thief attacks them, dad lays him out with one punch. Thief hits his head and never gets up.

Or it could be a couple of drunken rednecks beat somebody to death when they could have just beaten him almost to death.

I bet there weren't any other people around, so I doubt we'll ever know.

I bet they have cameras in the parking lots, so I suspect we'll know the full story soon.

12-01-2013, 07:18 PM
ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $3686009	810 Just said someone got murderd outside Arrowhead Police: Man who died at Arrowhead was in a vehicle similar to one he arrived in December 3 BY CHRISTINE VENDEL The Kansas City Star A Smithville man who was found in someone else’s Jeep and then died in a struggle outside Arrowhead Stadium Sunday had gone to the game in a similar vehicle that was parked nearby, police said Tuesday. The Jeep also showed no signs of a break-in, leading police to believe it may have been left unlocked when Kyle Van Winkle, 30, climbed in and sat down. Police released the additional details Tuesday as they continued to investigate what led to the death of Van Winkle, who had attended the Chiefs game against the Denver Broncos with relatives. Detectives planned to interview relatives Tuesday to determine when they last saw him inside the stadium. Police were called to Lot A of the Truman Sports Complex about 5:20 p.m. Sunday on a disturbance. Witnesses told police the Jeep owner had returned to his vehicle with his son, who is about 10 years old, when they realized a stranger was inside. The boy summoned help from several tail-gaters and they engaged in a struggle with Van Winkle, who had been sitting in the Jeep. Van Winkle collapsed and later died at a hospital. Police did not say how Van Winkle died, but they said his body bore no signs of obvious injury. Officers arrested three men shortly after the death, but they had to track down the fourth man who was arrested. Police searched one man’s home in Independence on Monday. Detectives released three of the men Monday night and the fourth man Tuesday morning, pending further investigation. Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/12/03...#storylink=cpy Last edited by Gonzo; 07-14-2016 at 08:33 AM.. Reason: Couldn't stand it anymore.
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