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Old 12-27-2017, 11:59 PM  
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Let's just go ahead and start talking about P Michael Dickson

Colquitt's old and expensive. He's gone.

This guy, though...

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Old 12-28-2017, 12:02 AM   #2
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Before facing Texas last week, WVU coach Dana Holgorsen described Michael Dickson as “the best punter I’ve ever seen.” The Longhorns punter subsequently pinned four of his seven punts inside the 20 during a 28-14 win over WVU.

“The Dickson kid, it’s unreal,” Holgorsen said. “That dude, he can get it off as fast as he wants to get it off, he can kick it any different way he wants to, sideline, field, rugby. He gets upwards to about five seconds hang time, which is unheard of. Dude needs to go pro right now. He’s just a junior, but he needs to hurry up and get his degree and go pro. He’s that good.”
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Old 12-28-2017, 04:43 AM   #3
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Looks awesome.

Veach and Toub will wait until the 6th or 7th though, if not just bring in an UDFA.

I think you can draft punters high, though. This team just has bigger needs at all three levels of the D.
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Old 12-28-2017, 07:44 AM   #4
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with a name like dickson, how can you go wrong.
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Old 12-28-2017, 02:56 PM   #5
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with a name like dickson, you have to be good.
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Old 12-29-2017, 10:52 AM   #6
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Old 01-02-2018, 01:32 AM   #7
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As a Longhorns fan I can tell you the guy is the truth.

What he did against Mizzou is pretty routine. He can finesse it in on a short field, but he can bomb it with hang time too. Amusingly, the Longhorns just signed his cousin out of the same program in Australia.

He won us a couple games this season. He routinely pinned teams back and forced them to augment their playcalling...allowing Orlando's defense to tee off with teams backed up against their endzone.

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Old 01-02-2018, 07:52 AM   #8
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As long as we don't use a 3rd like we did on colquitt. I'm firmly against using high draft picks on specialists.
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Old 01-02-2018, 10:51 AM   #9
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As long as we don't use a 3rd like we did on colquitt. I'm firmly against using high draft picks on specialists.
You’re undervaluing punters.

Playing against a good punter is like playing uphill.
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Old 01-02-2018, 05:24 PM   #10
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Chiefs have, what, a 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 6th?

In the 6th I'd take him in a heartbeat. I'd honestly consider him in the 4th. We have a tendency to overvalue the success rate of late round picks and if you can get an unquestioned starter who saves you a few million/season in cap space while simultaneously getting you probably a 20 yd/gm advantage, I'd think that's a nice use of the pick.

It may be too cute by half, but there's genuine cost savings there that can then be plowed into getting a little more surefire contributor at positions that are harder to project in the draft. Let's just say for instance that the money saved by taking this guy in the 4th is directly allocated to re-signing Albert Wilson, haven't you effectively used that 4th on Wilson?

Like I said, it's maybe a little too cute but I think it's a smarter way to look at things in an era where front offices are getting progressively more crafty with the cap. Just saying "don't use picks on specialists" is a little too basic, IMO.
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Old 01-02-2018, 05:44 PM   #11
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Punters are undervalued. I'd spend a draft pick on him easily if he's as good as advertised. Being able to flip field position in the event your offense falters is huge for the defense.
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Old 01-02-2018, 06:25 PM   #12
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Chiefs have, what, a 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 6th?
They'll get a Comp Pick for Foles, which may be higher than expected if he can win a playoff game or two.
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They'll get a Comp Pick for Foles, which may be higher than expected if he can win a playoff game or two.
They're also reportedly in line for three conditionals -- a 6th for Isaiah Battle, and 7ths for David Irving and Marcus Cooper.
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Old 01-02-2018, 11:04 PM   #14
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Chiefs have, what, a 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 6th?

In the 6th I'd take him in a heartbeat. I'd honestly consider him in the 4th. We have a tendency to overvalue the success rate of late round picks and if you can get an unquestioned starter who saves you a few million/season in cap space while simultaneously getting you probably a 20 yd/gm advantage, I'd think that's a nice use of the pick.

It may be too cute by half, but there's genuine cost savings there that can then be plowed into getting a little more surefire contributor at positions that are harder to project in the draft. Let's just say for instance that the money saved by taking this guy in the 4th is directly allocated to re-signing Albert Wilson, haven't you effectively used that 4th on Wilson?

Like I said, it's maybe a little too cute but I think it's a smarter way to look at things in an era where front offices are getting progressively more crafty with the cap. Just saying "don't use picks on specialists" is a little too basic, IMO.
Right on. And Even if the guy never takes a snap he won’t even be a blip on the radar after Tampa traded up in the second to draft a kicker that was horrific.
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Old 01-03-2018, 01:35 AM   #15
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Chiefs have, what, a 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 6th?

In the 6th I'd take him in a heartbeat. I'd honestly consider him in the 4th. We have a tendency to overvalue the success rate of late round picks and if you can get an unquestioned starter who saves you a few million/season in cap space while simultaneously getting you probably a 20 yd/gm advantage, I'd think that's a nice use of the pick.

It may be too cute by half, but there's genuine cost savings there that can then be plowed into getting a little more surefire contributor at positions that are harder to project in the draft. Let's just say for instance that the money saved by taking this guy in the 4th is directly allocated to re-signing Albert Wilson, haven't you effectively used that 4th on Wilson?

Like I said, it's maybe a little too cute but I think it's a smarter way to look at things in an era where front offices are getting progressively more crafty with the cap. Just saying "don't use picks on specialists" is a little too basic, IMO.
If you want to think about cost effectiveness I can't think of a better value than drafting what will probably be the best punter in the NFL and paying hima punters salary with 3rd round money for the next 15 years because if you don't take him in the 3rd he won't be there.

bet dorsey picks him up at the top of the 3rd in fact.
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