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Old 02-15-2018, 05:53 PM  
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Sources: College hoops corruption case poised to take down top College BB Teams

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Sources: College hoops corruption case poised to take down Hall of Fame coaches, top programs, lottery picks

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NEW YORK – It has been five months since the FBI arrested 10 men in a sweeping federal probe into the underbelly of the basketball world. As the three ongoing criminal cases resulting from the investigation plod along, it’s increasingly unlikely there will be another wave of double-digit arrests.

More legal charges still could come, but what’s becoming increasingly clear as the discovery portion of the case comes to a close is that the breadth of potential NCAA rules violations uncovered is wide enough to fundamentally and indelibly alter the sport of college basketball.

The soundtrack to the three federal basketball corruption cases is essentially a ticking time bomb, which will inevitably explode. It will impact every major conference, Hall of Fame coaches, a score of current top players and some of the nation’s most distinguished and respected programs.

Multiple sources who’ve been briefed on the case and are familiar with the material obtained by feds told Yahoo Sports that the impact on the sport will be substantial and relentless. Sitting under protective order right now are the fruits of 330 days of monitoring activity by the feds, which one assistant US Attorney noted Thursday was “a voluminous amount of material.” That includes wiretaps from 4,000 intercepted calls and thousands of documents and bank records obtained from raids and confiscated computers, including those from notorious NBA agent Andy Miller.

“This goes a lot deeper in college basketball than four corrupt assistant coaches,” said a source who has been briefed on the details of the case. “When this all comes out, Hall of Fame coaches should be scared, lottery picks won’t be eligible to play and almost half of the 16 teams the NCAA showed on its initial NCAA tournament show this weekend should worry about their appearance being vacated.”

There’s a general expectation that this information will be released. It could come in trial, pre-trial motions or released by the government at some point. (No one is certain if they’ve agreed to eventually give it to the NCAA if it doesn’t go public.)

So how bad could be it? In terms of NCAA rules, multiple sources told Yahoo Sports that the material obtained threatens the fundamental structure and integrity of the sport, as there’s potentially as many 50 college basketball programs that could end up compromised in some way.
Among the documents expected to be in the federal government’s protection are the bank records of Miller, who bankrolled middle man, Christian Dawkins, who is at the center of two of the cases.

“If the NCAA is going to get Andy Miller’s bank records, God bless them, I don’t know what they’re going to do,” said another source with direct knowledge of the situation, chuckling at the thought. “You are better off changing the rules. The crazy part of this business is none of the kids are free.”

NCAA officials are staring at the prospect of a tournament with a winner that will likely be vacating its title – and many others eventually vacating their appearances. There’s a lingering mushroom cloud over the sport’s upcoming showcase event that won’t go away. The most fascinating and tricky variable here is time.

There’s a protective order on the evidence found in discovery in all three cases. Whether the information gets out in dribs and drabs or released at once, the consequences are expected to be severe.

The government is not compelled to release the information, according to Daniel Richman, a former federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York who now teaches at Columbia Law School. “Sometimes never,” he said when asked generally about the timing of the release of information under protective order. He added: “The main sources of release will be in the course of pretrial motions and trial, and/or as related investigations go overt.”
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Old 02-23-2018, 07:23 AM   #76
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Old 02-23-2018, 07:38 AM   #77
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these are such small numbers, it doesnt make any sense to risk anything involved for that little amount
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Old 02-23-2018, 07:45 AM   #78
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these are such small numbers, it doesnt make any sense to risk anything involved for that little amount
Sucks for the guys that got $200-$300 and now get their names called out with guys that took $10,000-$50,000.
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Old 02-23-2018, 08:44 AM   #79
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nope KU isnt on there
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Good article. Just as I suspected everything is Smitty's fault. Hope he burns in hell for all of eternity.
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Old 02-23-2018, 08:53 AM   #80
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Apparently that was for a loan after he went pro.
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Old 02-23-2018, 09:22 AM   #81
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Apparently that was for a loan after he went pro.
https://twitter.com/ChrisFickett/sta...26761589575680
I was going to say if someone gave him 15 grand for a shoe deal they’re bad at business
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Old 02-23-2018, 09:29 AM   #82
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That's a nice fantasy. Thamel's sources tell him this involves elite programs paying to get players and stay at the top.

If Duke and UNC and Kentucky are paying to get players, so is ku.

All these guys get paid. I actually don't have a problem with it. Just don't pretend ku is above the fray.

You don't get ***** or Top 100 players unless you're kicking something to the families.
The question really isn't whether or not KU/UK/Duke/UNC/every other NCAA team cheats, it's more about who is hiding it the best.
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Old 02-23-2018, 09:31 AM   #83
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All these coaches will deny deny deny. I still can't believe NC and Roy Williams got away with what they did.

Oh wait yes I can because the NCAA is a joke.
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Old 02-23-2018, 09:33 AM   #84
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Based on Friday's report, and documents obtained therein, schools that could potentially face NCAA repercussions include: Alabama, Clemson, Creighton, Duke, Iowa State, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisville, LSU, Maryland, Michigan State, NC State, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Seton Hall, USC, Utah, Villanova, Virginia, Washington and Wichita State.

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Old 02-23-2018, 09:38 AM   #85
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All these coaches will deny deny deny. I still can't believe NC and Roy Williams got away with what they did.

Oh wait yes I can because the NCAA is a joke.
The deal at UNC was pretty ridiculous.
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Old 02-23-2018, 09:38 AM   #86
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A few grand here and there is nothing. How much did the FBI spend on this investigation? Embarrassing that they didn't turn up more IMO.
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The deal at UNC was pretty ridiculous.
"Sure they were all taking fake classes but so were the regular students so it wasn't an extra benefit to athletes."
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Based on Friday's report, and documents obtained therein, schools that could potentially face NCAA repercussions include: Alabama, Clemson, Creighton, Duke, Iowa State, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisville, LSU, Maryland, Michigan State, NC State, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Seton Hall, USC, Utah, Villanova, Virginia, Washington and Wichita State.

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So, they went through all the names of the players and just listed those schools lol
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