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Old 01-17-2013, 10:07 PM  
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Old 02-02-2013, 02:19 PM   #1486
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That's one of the dumbest things I've ever read on here. Wow.
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Old 02-02-2013, 02:19 PM   #1487
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Don't be a ****ing moron, dude. You're too valuable of a poster to be this dense.

You like Barkley just as much as people on here like Geno. You know and realize he has some flaws that might prevent him from being a great pro QB if he doesn't get them fixed eventually. But with the way you talk one would think Matt Barkley walks on water, amirite?

You're selectively reading the things you want to read that form your perception of Geno on this thread. That's all it is.

Try being a little wiser next time. Don't just come barreling into this thread guns blazing accusing us of having QB tunnel vision worse than Matt Cassel

I like 3 Quarterbacks in this draft and happy with any of them. Geno Barkley or Wilson. QB or Bust.
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Old 02-02-2013, 02:20 PM   #1488
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No shit i said This seems to sum up all his cons.
Typically when I'm debating someone, I use my OWN opinions, not someone else's.
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Old 02-02-2013, 02:57 PM   #1489
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Another con is that under pressure he tends to continue to drop back rather than step up in the pocket.
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Old 02-02-2013, 03:03 PM   #1490
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Another con is that under pressure he tends to continue to drop back rather than step up in the pocket.
I've seen him step up in the pocket plenty of times under pressure
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Old 02-02-2013, 03:06 PM   #1491
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Another con is sometimes he fractures the fingers of his WR's.

Oh, and he might just rip those really cool new gloves with bullet like passes.

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Old 02-02-2013, 03:07 PM   #1492
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We better draft Geno. After hearing all these interviews the dude has the drive. I hope the new regime does not go full reerun on draft day.
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Old 02-02-2013, 03:18 PM   #1493
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Another con is that under pressure he tends to continue to drop back rather than step up in the pocket.
Alright I may ammend my earlier statement to 2nd dumbest.
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Old 02-02-2013, 03:26 PM   #1495
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Another con is that under pressure he tends to continue to drop back rather than step up in the pocket.
That's a valid concern, on occasion.

Easily correctable, but from his college tape, I agree.

My biggest gripe about Geno: when the receivers aren't open and he has a big running lane, he opts to throw it away, take a sack by waiting too long, or forces a throw.

I can remember at last 10 times when I would yell at the screen for the guy to just take off and run with it because that's what the defense was giving him. The guy isn't slow, he had plenty of chances to pick up 15 or even 20 yards by running it and seemed to ignore the opportunity...probably because he wanted to stay disciplined by keeping his eyes downfield, but he needs to make defenses respect his legs in those situations at the next level.
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Old 02-02-2013, 03:32 PM   #1496
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That's a valid concern, on occasion.

Easily correctable, but from his college tape, I agree.

My biggest gripe about Geno: when the receivers aren't open and he has a big running lane, he opts to throw it away, take a sack by waiting too long, or forces a throw.

I can remember at last 10 times when I would yell at the screen for the guy to just take off and run with it because that's what the defense was giving him. The guy isn't slow, he had plenty of chances to pick up 15 or even 20 yards by running it and seemed to ignore the opportunity...probably because he wanted to stay disciplined by keeping his eyes downfield, but he needs to make defenses respect his legs in those situations at the next level.
I also agree with this. He's a little slow in his processing when he doesn't see anyone open.
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I think all 3 of these QB's have flaws, BUT our coaching staff can fix them with time.

And I realize Barkley doesn't have the strongest arm, but that's what the weight room is for. Matt Ryan had the same concern, but he's made plenty of great long throws.

I think Wilson has the same correctable flaws as every QB in this draft, but his toughness and leadership puts him in higher regard than the other guys. But that's just my opinion, not a fact by any means.
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Old 02-02-2013, 03:47 PM   #1498
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Smith doesn’t have a rocket arm, though it is strong enough. At times, he could stand to put more velocity on his throws instead of lofting them.

He too frequently locks onto his primary option instead of going through his progressions. Out of the shotgun, Smith struggles with his footwork and doesn’t cross his feet when dropping back. He’s much better under center.

Smith could actually afford to take a few more chances, as he doesn’t make a ton of big plays. Part of this could be West Virginia’s offensive scheme, but he should take more shots downfield.



This seems to sum up all his cons. I don't hate Geno but he has cons like every QB in this draft.

"primary option" A lot of times that is his best option as they get open that is why they become his "primary option" He gets rid of the ball quick enough and they make plays that way. A guy does't have to go through his reads if he is moving the chains and have successful scoring drives. Geno Smith was pretty good at that.

I fail to see that being much of a flaw. When a QB can deliver a ball to the "primary option" on a consistent basis, that is a good thing. Plays are designed to get the ball to the "primary otpion" arn't they?

If his "primary option" is getting open frequently then why does he need to go through all his options?
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I also agree with this. He's a little slow in his processing when he doesn't see anyone open.
I agree, but part of that is due to how much faith he has in his receivers. Austin and Bailey were better than the guy covering the most of the time.
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