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Old 09-21-2018, 08:41 AM  
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Justin Houstonís last year in KC?

Iím not an expert on these contracts, but could it be Houstonís last year here? His production has been awful and with two games this year with big leads and lots of down the field pass attempts by opposing QBs, Houston has no sacks. I think he has less sacks in the last 50 or so games than he did in the year before his contract, the big year with 22 sacks. His cap hit will decline dramatically next year. He might be gone. As a general rule, I think the chiefs should limit these large 2nd contracts. The motivation just isnít there. The raiders were right to trade Khalil Mack. Hereís the info on Houstonís contract. Letís hope Houston turns it around. We need him for a playoff run but if he doesnít increase production, I think heís gone.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-c...-houston-7789/
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Old 09-21-2018, 10:09 AM   #91
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Hey Clowney is a FA after this year want him?

Think Ezekial Ansah can stand up because Detroit probably won't keep him either.
Lots of decent edge rushers slated to be FA... Clay Matthews, Brian Orakpo, Jadeveon Clowney, Derrick Morgan, Demarcus Lawrence, Brandon Graham, Ezekiel Ansah...
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Old 09-21-2018, 10:09 AM   #92
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For the record the CB FA market for next year is horrible. Safety is solid though lots of good players there.
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Old 09-21-2018, 10:10 AM   #93
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Lots of decent edge rushers slated to be FA... Clay Matthews, Brian Orakpo, Jadeveon Clowney, Derrick Morgan, Demarcus Lawrence, Brandon Graham, Ezekiel Ansah...
I don't like Lawrence or Graham as stand up guys honestly..Morgan ehh

Matthews is still productive but GB will probably keep him.
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Old 09-21-2018, 10:12 AM   #94
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This year is a prove it or cut year for Houston and next year is a prove it or cut year for Berry. We need to start preparing to extend Tyreek and Mahomes.
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Old 09-21-2018, 10:13 AM   #95
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Lots of decent edge rushers slated to be FA... Clay Matthews, Brian Orakpo, Jadeveon Clowney, Derrick Morgan, Demarcus Lawrence, Brandon Graham, Ezekiel Ansah...
Dante Fowlerís option was turned down.

Thatís my pick
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Old 09-21-2018, 10:13 AM   #96
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For the record the CB FA market for next year is horrible. Safety is solid though lots of good players there.
Would love to steal Landon Collins from the G-Men and move Berry to FS, but I think they'll franchise him.
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Old 09-21-2018, 10:16 AM   #97
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I don't like Lawrence or Graham as stand up guys honestly..Morgan ehh

Matthews is still productive but GB will probably keep him.
More or less noting it could be a saturated market, which may be good for signing the next tier guys for decent money.

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Dante Fowlerís option was turned down.

Thatís my pick
Mine too.
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Old 09-21-2018, 10:17 AM   #98
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Old 09-21-2018, 10:25 AM   #99
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I trust Houston with mega millions way more than I do Dee Ford, and we have Houston for another two seasons beyond this one.

What we should really be concerned with is, "Dee Ford's last year in KC?" not Justin Houston.

And no, I'm not making excuses for Houston. I'm just saying that he is a far more reliable player. Other than his weird knee thing that happened, he's been a healthy player. Dee Ford is always knicked with some bullshit, "Oh, I was playing on a bad hamstring all year..." excuse.

And on the field... even post-injury, I'd STILL rather have Houston than Ford.

Yes, we should absolutely restructure his deal, and I'm not necessarily against cutting him, but knowing Veach, I have yet to see him sign players to decent deals. If we tried to extend Ford, it'd be a REALLY shitty deal for us. I just know it.

Let Ford walk. Pray that one of Kpass/Speaks isn't a moldy bag of dicks. Restructure Houston's deal. And probably draft another guy.

That's how I'd handle it.
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Old 09-21-2018, 10:25 AM   #100
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SF has given up 9 sacks this year so it might be a good week to see guys like Houston have a big game...
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Old 09-21-2018, 10:29 AM   #101
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KC is going to have some real cap space to work with next offseason AND they will have a good stockpile of picks to work with.

If done right, it could be the kind of offseason that primes them for a Super Bowl run.
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Old 09-21-2018, 10:37 AM   #102
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Houston had the biggest defensive play in the game and it was stolen by the Refs.

He had another sure sack that was negated by a blatant hold and Ben throwing past the line of scrimmage.

2 sacks taken away. But the Narrative is he didn't do anything because there are no sacks on record. Do people even watch the games?

Oh yeah, he was held like crazy every play to protect Ben.

Jimmy Grapes will feel the full force of Houston this week and these kinds of threads will disappear.
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Old 09-21-2018, 10:39 AM   #103
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KC is going to have some real cap space to work with next offseason AND they will have a good stockpile of picks to work with.

If done right, it could be the kind of offseason that primes them for a Super Bowl run.


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Old 09-21-2018, 10:56 AM   #104
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Houston had the biggest defensive play in the game and it was stolen by the Refs.

He had another sure sack that was negated by a blatant hold and Ben throwing past the line of scrimmage.

2 sacks taken away. But the Narrative is he didn't do anything because there are no sacks on record. Do people even watch the games?

Oh yeah, he was held like crazy every play to protect Ben.

Jimmy Grapes will feel the full force of Houston this week and these kinds of threads will disappear.
I believe this is so.
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Old 09-21-2018, 11:09 AM   #105
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Well, if the refs hadn't decided (for whatever reason) that offensive holding was going to be completely legal for the game Houston probably has 2 or 3.
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