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Old 09-21-2018, 08:41 AM  
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Justin Houstonís last year in KC?

Iím not an expert on these contracts, but could it be Houstonís last year here? His production has been awful and with two games this year with big leads and lots of down the field pass attempts by opposing QBs, Houston has no sacks. I think he has less sacks in the last 50 or so games than he did in the year before his contract, the big year with 22 sacks. His cap hit will decline dramatically next year. He might be gone. As a general rule, I think the chiefs should limit these large 2nd contracts. The motivation just isnít there. The raiders were right to trade Khalil Mack. Hereís the info on Houstonís contract. Letís hope Houston turns it around. We need him for a playoff run but if he doesnít increase production, I think heís gone.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-c...-houston-7789/
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Old 09-22-2018, 05:49 AM   #151
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I hate that he hasn’t been on the field, and he is grossly overpaid because of it.


If he plays championship level football this year it will erase my negative thoughts towards his recent past “production”.

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Old 09-22-2018, 08:51 AM   #152
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He generally seems to play slow and looks ten years older on the field, something about that injury or maybe his motivation has fallen off. He looks like DJ 2 years ago, just doesn't have the speed or fire anymore. I will say he is fantastic at setting the edge on his side and containing and occasionally blowing up sweeps/screens/off tackle runs which is an underrated skill that doesn't always hit the stat sheets. Buttons use of him is also in question, but that is a whole other can of worms.

My general feeling on mega second contracts the last few years is just trade them or let them walk and take the 3rd. I'll take two young, healthy, hungry and relatively cheap Dee Fords/Hitchens/Raglands/Kpasses over a $20 million LB gamble any day. Same for any future Berry types, give me the Abdullah/Parker (2015ish)/3-5th round draft pick over our other $20mm gamble who took the team for every single red cent his agent could get. If one is that valuable just franchise them year to year. Essentially the modern NFL RB approach, get that cheap first contract and then make the smart business decision.

I wasn't screaming from the podium when the numbers came out on both deals, but I can say my gut feeling was they were both too much with no options for the team regarding cut/trade. ROI between 50/29 has been crap the last 3-4 years, two salaries combined are probably north of $100 million+ and in return we got one good season out of 29 and the rest are hurt/gimpy/average years between the two. Locker room/team/rah-rah stuff aside, both of those deals are a huge fail at this point.
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Old 09-22-2018, 09:00 AM   #153
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Old 09-22-2018, 09:06 AM   #154
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It seems a lot more people are coming around finally. Justin Houston has been ineffective for years now.
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Old 09-22-2018, 09:08 AM   #155
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It seems a lot more people are coming around finally. Justin Houston has been ineffective for years now.
You do realize that someone bought his jersey right?
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Old 09-23-2018, 02:03 PM   #156
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God all you morons can suck my ****ing dick. That’s Houston’s second strip sack of the season and maybe his fourth sack total without penalties away from the play.
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Old 09-23-2018, 02:06 PM   #157
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God all you morons can suck my ****ing dick. Thatís Houstonís second strip sack of the season and maybe his fourth sack total without penalties away from the play.
He is by far the best player on this defense but it doesn't show up on PFF or the stat sheet so it doesn't matter.

As soon as the reigns are loosed he's a ****ing monster IMMEDIATELY.

HE'S PLAING IN THE DEFENSE.
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Old 09-23-2018, 02:07 PM   #158
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Send Houston and 3rd to Seattle for Earl Thomas...
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Old 09-23-2018, 02:08 PM   #159
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Send Houston and 3rd to Seattle for Earl Thomas...
Kindly go **** yourself...
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Old 09-23-2018, 02:13 PM   #160
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Is there any other way to do it?
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Old 09-23-2018, 02:13 PM   #161
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God all you morons can suck my ****ing dick. Thatís Houstonís second strip sack of the season and maybe his fourth sack total without penalties away from the play.
This.
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Old 09-23-2018, 02:22 PM   #162
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He played well today. He should have had three sacks, if not for letting Jimmy G out of his grasp a couple times.

At any rate, the one he notched was in a huge, huge moment. If we'd have recovered the fumble you guys would be sucking his dick.
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Is there any other way to do it?
If you aren't a fan of Houston I'd suggest violently, but, I guess we should all get a vote in that...











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another stupid opinion on Houston lol
this again
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Well he’s made one big play on the season now. That’s a step in the right direction...
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