Chiefs Geno Smith vs Alex Smith - It's on. - Page 15

Hammock Parties · 02:56 AM

It's on now. Geno Smith is probably going to be starting for the Jets this season.

Alex Smith will be the Chiefs QB for the forseeable future. If he's a success, we'll probably get five good years out of him.

So who's gonna win more NFL games over that time period?

Put your ten pounders on the table and make a vote

Alex: 11 wins
Geno: 8 wins

Chief Roundup · 07-07-2013, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

If your given the choice between Cassel and Sanchez, you take Cassel?

God man it is hard to choose between the butt fumble and the I can't even put a hat on my head. Can I just run the wildcat or take a kick in the balls. Either would be better than those 2 at QB.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-07-2013, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

If your given the choice between Cassel and Sanchez, you take Cassel?

Sanchez every time.

At least you get a high second rounder.

aturnis · 07-07-2013, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Sanchez every time.

At least you get a high second rounder.

Exactly. No question. So how does he decide that if Geno doesn't beat out Sanchez, he couldn't possibly beat out Cassel.

Cassel was historically bad last year.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-07-2013, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

God man it is hard to choose between the butt fumble and the I can't even put a hat on my head. Can I just run the wildcat or take a kick in the balls. Either would be better than those 2 at QB.

Sanchez is infinitely better than Cassel

Marcellus · 07-07-2013, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Sanchez is infinitely better than Cassel

Nope.

This is simply the point of better than Cassel does not equal good. Sanchez is not a good QB. Not even close.

And you have been busting my chops about QB evaluation. Good grief.

-King- · 07-07-2013, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Sanchez is infinitely better than Cassel

In which way?

Sanchez averages 1.1 TDs, 195 yards, and 1.1 INTs per start.

Cassel averages 1.3 TDs, 217.7 yards, and 0.9 INTs per start.

Cassel is basically better than him in every single way.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 07-07-2013, 09:22 PM

I don't recall Sanchez ever shitting himself in the playoffs. I do however recall Cassel doing exactly that.

aturnis · 07-07-2013, 09:25 PM

Just an update for Jets West, since I haven't seen it yet.

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FLORHAM PARK, N.J. — Someone suggested to Geno Smith that, if he encounters a situation with the media in which he's not sure what to say, just reply, "No comment." The logic being, if he doesn't say anything, he won't say anything wrong.That theory proved to be incorrect this week when the New York Jets' rookie quarterback no-commented his way through a couple of questions about whether he would attend Mark Sanchez's annual "Jets West" camp in California next month.Smith clarified on Thursday he had nothing to say on the matter because he didn't know what to say, or even what he was being asked."Myself and Mark, we never discussed that, so it kind of caught me off-guard, because it's not on my schedule or anything. I was like, 'What is Jets West?' " Smith said, adding: "From my understanding, it's something that's done annually, all the guys go out there and it's been a great event."Mark hasn't officially extended the hand to me, but I'm pretty sure there's no problem there. I'm more than willing to go there, get some work, work with the guys and do all that stuff. It helps team bonding, and I fully support that."Smith and Sanchez are competing for the starting job. Sanchez and Tim Tebow didn't have the most comfortable of relationships last year, as even Sanchez has admitted, so Smith's "no comment" on Wednesday seemed to be the first sign of a rift between the two.Not so, Smith said."Mark's a great guy. He welcomed me with open arms, all these guys have," Smith said. "I never felt any type of negative vibes from him or any other guy. That's the good thing about being here, being a rookie and being a part of the Jets."I get the opportunity to compete for a starting job, which is very rare, especially at this position, and I also have a great bunch of guys surrounding me who are helping me and who are also pushing me and motivating me on the practice field."Smith made it clear he isn't averse to putting in the extra work next month during a time when teams aren't allowed to hold any workouts. While there were questions about his work ethic leading up to the draft and beyond, Smith's reputation around the Jets' building has been as a dedicated player and hard worker.In fact, he's even continuing to surprise his teammates with his work ethic. Thursday, when he asked one of his teammates in the locker room if he could get a ride home, that teammate was disappointed to learn he'd have to wait around for Smith, who wasn't ready to leave immediately."Come on, man, you know I have to study," Smith replied.Smith will have to continue to put in the hard work to beat out Sanchez in Week 1, though coach Rex Ryan and quarterbacks coach David Lee said this week Smith could see some time in a Wildcat-type package, even if Sanchez is the starting quarterback.In short, Smith had better keep studying and practicing. General manager John Idzik said Thursday he expects Smith to be signed and in camp on time. Smith's agent, Kim Miale of Roc Nation, is in communication with the NFL Players Association, which is trying to determine if she violated the union's "runner rule" by allowing Jay-Z to recruit Smith for the firm. Idzik indicated that's not an issue with contract talks as of this point."We're not going to get into any contract negotiations (publicly)," Idzik said, "but nothing is standing in the way."

Sweet Daddy Hate · 07-07-2013, 09:28 PM

What a horrible human being.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-07-2013, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

In which way?

Sanchez averages 1.1 TDs, 195 yards, and 1.1 INTs per start.

Cassel averages 1.3 TDs, 217.7 yards, and 0.9 INTs per start.

Cassel is basically better than him in every single way.

In the mere fact that he isn't Cassel.

Cassel wouldn't last a series in New York City, let alone, four years.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-07-2013, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Nope.

This is simply the point of better than Cassel does not equal good. Sanchez is not a good QB. Not even close.

And you have been busting my chops about QB evaluation. Good grief.

Cassel wouldn't have led the 2009 NY Jets to the AFC Championship and led at the half.

Cassel wouldn't have led the 2010 NY Jets to the AFC Championship.

Cassel can barely get out of bed without fumbling his OWN balls, let alone those of his center's.

Sanchez is the worst starting QB in the league but he's infinitely better than Cassel.

-King- · 07-07-2013, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

In the mere fact that he isn't Cassel.

Cassel wouldn't last a series in New York City, let alone, four years.

That makes sense.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-07-2013, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

That makes sense.

I just feel for those poor bastards in Minnesota that live on that glimmer of hope that Cassel is better than Ponder.

-King- · 07-07-2013, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Cassel wouldn't have led the 2009 NY Jets to the AFC Championship and led at the half.

Cassel wouldn't have led the 2010 NY Jets to the AFC Championship

He LED them to what exactly?

His best TD to INT ratio was 17-13 in those two years. His first year he had 8 more INTs than TDs. He didn't lead them to shit.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 07-07-2013, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I just feel for those poor bastards in Minnesota that live on that glimmer of hope that Cassel is better than Ponder.

This. The grass is not always greener. Sometimes it is filled with fresh dog turds.

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