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Old 09-24-2012, 11:53 AM  
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Nightfyre's initial QB rankings

My current QB rankings:
1) Geno Smith
t2) Tyler Wilson
t2) Matt Barkley
4) Logan Thomas
5) EJ Manuel
6) Aaron Murray
7) AJ McCarron
8) Tyler Bray
9) Landry Jones

Just thought you might all like to know.
Just to keep the record straight, my history is as follows:
2009: I was on the draft Sanchez bandwagon
2010: I was on the draft Bradford/Clausen bandwagon
2011: I was against Cam Newton and Jake Locker, but on board with Gabbert, Ponder and Mallett in the second AND third
2012: I was on the Andrew Luck bandwagon in early 2011 and was probably one of the first here to get on the RGIII bandwagon. I also proposed drafting Russell Wilson in the third and was among his biggest advocates here.

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Old 12-08-2012, 03:40 PM   #46
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If Geno Smith doesn't fall into our laps, I am all about taking a shot on Dysert and/or Nassib.
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Old 12-08-2012, 09:04 PM   #47
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:14 AM   #48
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And now the Nassib bandwagoners begin. Just remember, I started this thing bitches!!!!

Awww, you started the Nassib bandwagon. That's cute.

-- Sincerely, Geno Smith bandwagon co-pilot.
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:17 AM   #49
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Geno

Bray
Barkley
Murray

Wilson

Thomas
Manuel
Glennon

Jones
Rest of the chaff...
Updated for the end of the regular season:

Geno

Wilson
Bray

Murray
Barkley
Nassib

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Glennon
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:58 PM   #50
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:03 PM   #51
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Curious DJ, what made you like Wilson more?
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:43 PM   #52
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Curious DJ, what made you like Wilson more?
Build and tools.

The more I've watched him, the more impressed I've been with his physical skill-set. I still don't think he's a good decisionmaker and I still think his arm is worse than Smith's and Brays.

But I think he's a durable guy that should probably be able to take a pounding at this level and keep going out there. I think he's a safer pick than Bray in that he does appear to have a little more polish and I don't worry about him getting broken in half (Bray's build worries me).

I still prefer Bray's upside, but I think Wilson's a very safe pick. And I've tried to split the difference between where I was earlier when I was saying his stats were all a product of Petrino's system. I think it's fair to say his struggles this year were largely a product of John L. Smith's !@#$up.

So if Petrino is still at Arky this year, Wilson is probably putting up #s on par with Geno's, at which case I have to sit there and just go on their respective skill-sets. I saw enough in Wilson's toolbox that I've moved him up.
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:53 PM   #53
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Build and tools.

The more I've watched him, the more impressed I've been with his physical skill-set. I still don't think he's a good decisionmaker and I still think his arm is worse than Smith's and Brays.

But I think he's a durable guy that should probably be able to take a pounding at this level and keep going out there. I think he's a safer pick than Bray in that he does appear to have a little more polish and I don't worry about him getting broken in half (Bray's build worries me).

I still prefer Bray's upside, but I think Wilson's a very safe pick. And I've tried to split the difference between where I was earlier when I was saying his stats were all a product of Petrino's system. I think it's fair to say his struggles this year were largely a product of John L. Smith's !@#$up.

So if Petrino is still at Arky this year, Wilson is probably putting up #s on par with Geno's, at which case I have to sit there and just go on their respective skill-sets. I saw enough in Wilson's toolbox that I've moved him up.
Wilson IMO upside is Warner/Green, but "durability" with a concussion on his medical resume isn't a ringing endorsement added with the punishment he's already taken. Bray's build is very similar to Brady's and Bradford's at the same stage so their is room to grow.
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Old 12-17-2012, 04:49 PM   #54
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I guess you all are convinced Bray will magically grow up when he enters the NFL?
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Old 12-17-2012, 04:53 PM   #55
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I guess you all are convinced Bray will magically grow up when he enters the NFL?
Marino did, and if Bray doesn't then it's time to try again. if for some reason KC doesn't draft Geno you got to try again.
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Old 12-17-2012, 04:55 PM   #56
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Marino did, and if Bray doesn't then it's time to try again. if for some reason KC doesn't draft Geno you got to try again.
I just look at that behavior and I think: "I wouldn't follow that guy." That's the only reason he is at the bottom of my list. And he has wonky mechanics, which would be difficult to repeat and master - which leads directly to his inconsistency. But all that is completely secondary to his failure as a leader.
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I just look at that behavior and I think: "I wouldn't follow that guy." That's the only reason he is at the bottom of my list. And he has wonky mechanics, which would be difficult to repeat and master - which leads directly to his inconsistency.
As I said many times before it's up to him if he wants to get serious, his inconsistency is directly related to in having a receiving corps that has stone hands.
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Old 12-17-2012, 05:27 PM   #58
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I was referring to the consistency with the accuracy of his passes. Not his statistics.
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When I've watched Bray, he hasn't been accurate at all.
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Old 12-17-2012, 05:53 PM   #60
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I just look at that behavior and I think: "I wouldn't follow that guy."
I can't help but think he has some Ryan Leaf in him.
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