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Old 03-29-2015, 01:30 AM  
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A few things to clear up.

The Chiefs are a really, really good team with a few weaknesses, and a non-elite quarterback.

I have no idea why that's such a hard notion to grasp.

We have some folks (not on ChiefsPlanet) who are committed to the idea that the Chiefs are a couple pieces away from Super Bowl contention. That's a really difficult idea to swallow, because unless the Alex Smith of the Colts playoffs game emerges, this team doesn't have the quarterback to win the Super Bowl.

We have other folks (approximately 75% of ChiefsPlanet) who are similarly committed to the idea that the entire team is ass, an opinion fueled by hatred of Alex Smith's limitations more than it is by fact.

This Chiefs team has a couple holes, right? At WR and ILB and OL and so on.

With the exception of MAYBE two teams in the NFL, MAYBE, so does every other team in the NFL. In a parity driven league, you simply can't plug all holes unless your GM is simply better than everybody else (Schneider in Seattle, Belichek in New England). And even that is difficult to swallow -- Ozzie Newsome and Ted Thompson are the two of the top five GMs in the NFL and Baltimore and Green Bay have at LEAST as many roster holes as the Chiefs do. (Green Bay is riddled with them.) They've just been able to win Super Bowls by overcoming those holes, not by plugging all of them.

That said, the Chiefs have a Top 10 defense that is returning in its entirety in 2015. DJ and DeVito will be back, Ford and Gaines will have had another year, and Clark Hunt has personally said the Chiefs want Houston to be a Chief for his whole career. The entire secondary, the #2 secondary in the NFL last year, will be back. The entire passrush, a Top 5 passrush in the NFL, will be back. All our Pro Bowlers will be back. Plus we have 10 draft picks.

The Chiefs have serious holes, still, on the OL and WR corps, and hopefully address it in the draft. Travis Kelce was a de facto rookie last year. De'Anthony Thomas was a rookie last year. Albert Wilson was a rookie that only played for a month. Fulton and Fisher were rookies at their position last year. We benched one of our best-ish lineman in Stephenson and lost Allen to injury. Both will return. Our #1 WR right now actually fits the offense. PLUS WE HAVE 10 DRAFT PICKS.

Alex Smith is a weight on this team so long as he plays like Regular Season Alex Smith. The team can succeed with that Alex Smith, however, because they went 9-7 last year against the league's toughest schedule. This year, the ONLY THING the Chiefs have lost is Rodney Hudson. Everywhere else, we're better. And our schedule will be easier.

Plus... we have 10 draft picks. Four of them in the top 100.

So count me amongst the realists. I'm not printing Super Bowl tickets nor am I a fatalist fueled by the Smith-hate.

I will say, if somehow, the Alex Smith that has balled out of his mind in all three playoff games he's played somehow emerges and manages to stick around, I could be seriously swayed towards believing that Anything Is Possible in 2015.

I just doubt it. But that probably means the Chiefs are still "merely" going to be a very dangerous, talented team in 2015.
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Old 03-29-2015, 08:20 AM   #16
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If this offense needs Roaf and Shields to commence a passing game, you might as well just cash it in today.
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Old 03-29-2015, 08:22 AM   #17
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Because there is no medium ground between a turnstile and Roaf and Shields, its simply one or the other.
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Old 03-29-2015, 08:23 AM   #18
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Because there is no medium ground between a turnstile and Roaf and Shields, its simply one or the other.
Hey, I didn't draft the mother****ers...
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Old 03-29-2015, 08:43 AM   #19
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Good post.

This is one of the more promising rosters the Chiefs have had pre-draft in years. I feel much better going into the season as the team currently stands than any other time in the past decade. As already mentioned, if you are concerned about the offense, the best way to address it is to improve oline play.
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Old 03-29-2015, 09:01 AM   #20
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I agree with what Milkman said, If we can just get Smith better protection and give him just another nano second he will be a better quarterback. Between Kelce, Maclin and Avant there should always be an open receiver , he just needs time to find one.
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Old 03-29-2015, 10:13 AM   #21
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If this offense needs Roaf and Shields to commence a passing game, you might as well just cash it in today.
We need them because Alex Smith is too limited. Unless our OL plays out of its mind this year, it'll be the same old thing.
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Old 03-29-2015, 10:37 AM   #22
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who is our center?

nobody remotely proven

who is our #2 cornerback?

a 2nd year guy who really should stay in the slot?

RG?
RT?
#2 WR?

Eric Berry ... probably not
DJ ... who knows
Houston hold out?
Hali falls off the old age cliff?

Those are just the obvious issues we have.

No team with this many questions can be considered "a really, really good team"

maybe things work out and they are but you can't ASSUME they will be
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Old 03-29-2015, 10:43 AM   #23
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I'm far from a Debbie a Downer but our defense was #2 in scoring last season with a bunch of overachieving slapsticks. It's a bit unrealistic to expect them to repeat that kind of success. I'd consider it a win if we were able to maintain top 10 status in points allowed, honestly.

The offense needs to do better to compensate.
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Old 03-29-2015, 10:49 AM   #24
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Old 03-29-2015, 10:52 AM   #25
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Old 03-29-2015, 11:38 AM   #26
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Nice post, D.

Hopefully, with some management prodding.....and a couple of good WRs.....and an improved OL (albeit modestly)......Alex can be coaxed into tossing the rock just a bit further down the field.

Surely, everyone associated with the Chiefs understands that we need to push the envelope a bit more than we did last year. I have faith in Dorsey, Reid, Alex, etc to be smart enough to be able to address and overcome this deficiency. BUT, time will tell....
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The Chiefs are a really, really good team


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Old 03-29-2015, 11:43 AM   #28
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Old 03-29-2015, 11:43 AM   #29
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It's a complete logical fallacy to introduce some "toughest schedule" bullshit to your reasoning.

They lost to the Titans, Raiders and Cardinals.

But then again your post put some kind of stock into players like Stephenson and Allen (LOLOLOLOL).

You are truly delusional. The Chiefs will need a gigantic stroke of luck just to get into the playoffs, and are certainly not a contender for the AFC West.
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We need them because Alex Smith is too limited. Unless our OL plays out of its mind this year, it'll be the same old thing.
People DO realize that the grandpa super-line was an anomaly that will never be seen again much less in KC, yes?
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