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Old 01-17-2017, 12:35 PM  
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MELLINGER: Should The Chiefs Move On From Smith?
Yep, another Alex Smith thread - but a solid and fair read from Sam Mellinger.

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The only way forward is through brutal honesty and realistic self-evaluation. No sport moves as quickly, or with such little empathy, as the NFL.

Only fools assume what happened in the past will continue to happen in the future, unless that assumption is “the Patriots will win every year from now until armageddon because Bill Belichick is an alien.”

And so it is that this particular group of Chiefs players and executives attempt to solve a puzzle that no group of Chiefs players and executives has solved since 1970, which is so long ago CBS erased the tape to save money:

Get to the Super Bowl.

And it’s hard to believe that will happen without addressing the quarterback situation.

This is not a call for the Chiefs to walk away from Alex Smith, even though this is the first offseason since his arrival in which they could do it without a fatal salary cap hit. This is a call for them to look, to try, to make sure they don’t have access to a better option — whether that’s Tony Romo in a trade, Deshaun Watson in the draft (which would almost certainly require a trade up), or anything else.
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...#storylink=cpy
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Old 01-17-2017, 04:10 PM   #106
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He showed improvement in many categories this year.
This absolutely isn't true.

The team was pitiful on third down, the downfield and intermediate passing attack was a joke, red zone offense bottomed out.

Smith passed for 16 more yards on 21 more completions this season compared to last. That's comical.

Considering the improvement in the OL, the signs of a declining player are stark.
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Old 01-17-2017, 04:11 PM   #107
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Because Smith misses one big play everyone goes nuts. His receivers miss 5 important passes, nobody says a peep.

This is why Dorsey and Reid call the shots and make the millions, not a bunch of overweight unemployed/retired folk.
Smith missed far more than one big play, and who here hasn't ragged on the drops? Chat room was livid with Kelce and Wilson for sure. ****ing delusions man.
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Old 01-17-2017, 04:12 PM   #108
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This absolutely isn't true.

The team was pitiful on third down, the downfield and intermediate passing attack was a joke, red zone offense bottomed out.

Smith passed for 16 more yards on 21 more completions this season compared to last. That's comical.

Considering the improvement in the OL, the signs of a declining player are stark.

26th in red zone scoring.
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Old 01-17-2017, 04:12 PM   #109
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I'm still convinced Smith's peak as a passing QB ( versus dual-threat QB) is still to come. He showed improvement in many categories this year. The decrease in TD numbers has more to do with Maclin being off his game.
It should be on the rise with Hill and his speed.

alex has proven year after year that he is inconsistent throwing the deep ball.

Blake Bortles hits a couple deep balls too, that doesn't make him a good QB.

Personally I hope you keep alex for 5-7 more years. Lock him up!
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Because Smith misses one big play everyone goes nuts. His receivers miss 5 important passes, nobody says a peep.
He missed more than one big play. There were two sure touchdowns to Reek. He threw to the wrong man on the two point conversion. He threw a pass Spencer Ware barely got a finger on, on third down.

There's a handful of other plays you can debate, but the point has always remained the same with this QB: he's just not capable of making big plays, and if you scored 20 points in a game with him at QB, you did well.

That's not a SB profile.
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Old 01-17-2017, 04:13 PM   #111
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It should be on the rise with Hill and his speed.

alex has proven year after year that he is inconsistent throwing the deep ball.

Blake Bortles hits a couple deep balls too, that doesn't make him a good QB.

Personally I hope you keep alex for 5-7 more years. Lock him up!

Steve, I am sad.
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Old 01-17-2017, 04:13 PM   #112
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I'm still convinced Smith's peak as a passing QB ( versus dual-threat QB) is still to come. He showed improvement in many categories this year. The decrease in TD numbers has more to do with Maclin being off his game.
I'm still convinced that a scout is going to see me hit a particularly hard ground ball in a slow-pitch game and realize that every coach that had me ridin' pine for 15 years was wrong, then immediately sign me to a million dollar deal as the starting CFer for the Yankees.

You just wait - this spring will be the year. I've got my slide pants, batting gloves, eye black and wrist bands ready for D-League softball. You dress for the job you want, my friend...
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Old 01-17-2017, 04:21 PM   #113
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I'm still convinced that a scout is going to see me hit a particularly hard ground ball in a slow-pitch game and realize that every coach that had me ridin' pine for 15 years was wrong, then immediately sign me to a million dollar deal as the starting CFer for the Yankees.

You just wait - this spring will be the year. I've got my slide pants, batting gloves, eye black and wrist bands ready for D-League softball. You dress for the job you want, my friend...
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The run game was stagnant this season
Maclin did not play like a #1 receiver
Smith's QBR has only increased year after year
Smith's top WR was an inexperienced rookie
Smith's sack rate went down 40%
Smith's completion % went up despite his #1 receiver being MIA

The evidence is there to support that 2017 will be another efficient season for him. We beat high-powered offenses with him when all the idiots on this board said we were doomed at 2-2 and would finish the season 8-8.
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Steve, I am sad.
The sun will come out tomorrow.

Sadly your QB is still going to be alex and Reid is going to be your HC.

The only other thing I would like to see other than alex staying around for 7 years is if the FO fired Reid, let Dorsey go to GB then brought mCd to be your GM and HC.

That is a special ring in hell, believe me.
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I know you’re probably expecting another installment in the Good/Bad series from me today, but honestly I don’t see a point. I chose that format in an attempt to organize my thoughts into different categories, but trying to list what the Kansas City Chiefs did right in Sunday night’s game seems pretty fruitless when the outcome was the end of the season.

For the better part of this year I’ve done my best to try and put my fandom aside and analyze each game as a professional. But in my multiple attempts to write this out late Sunday night, I couldn’t.

I tried a few different ways to numb the sting of watching my childhood team fall short again. I indulged in a few more beverages left over from the watching the game. I threw on the season finale of “Sherlock” (it was a good one) and gave HBO’s new show “The Young Pope” a spin. I read through the columns and post-game quotes from sites like the Kansas City Star, Arrowhead Pride and our own guys here at Chiefs Wire.

But every time I tried to sit back down and write this I just wanted to vent my frustrations. After my fourth attempt and getting through the third paragraph, I shut down my laptop and figured a good night sleep would help.

It didn’t. So instead of trying again, allow me approach this from the perspective of a fan and see if we can find a silver lining with where the Chiefs are now.

As a 20-something who was born and raised in the suburbs of Kansas City, I’ve only ever known two types of Chiefs teams: 1) Mediocre 2) Just good enough to fail when it counts. And for as many times as the Chiefs managed to pull out crazy comebacks wins this year, last night proved that this was just another season of the latter.
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Today I learned that's the definition of stagnant.
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The evidence is there to support that 2017 will be another efficient season for him. We beat high-powered offenses with him when all the idiots on this board said we were doomed at 2-2 and would finish the season 8-8.
I'd be okay with giving it ONE more year. A shred of hope remains that he can make the choice to elevate his game. I thought it would be this year.

I know, I know.. top 5 in team drops, a poor run block OL, Andy's gameplans, etc etc. Other things have worked against him.

The exhaustion of waiting for him to develop ANY sense of gun-slinger mentality? The poor pocket composure, and seeming willingness to let Andy handcuff him?

I just about had enough. ONE more year, and it better be with a young QBoTF being developed behind him.
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Ware earned almost 1000 yards rushing on 4.3 per carry.

Today I learned that's the definition of stagnant.
Fact: RB touchdown total is down 50% from 2015.
We went from #1 in 2015 to #13 in 2016. If you remove Smith's QB rushing TD's our running backs rank in the bottom third.

Idiot.
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Ware earned almost 1000 yards rushing on 4.3 per carry.

Today I learned that's the definition of stagnant.
Ware with a better or equal YPC average than:

David Johnson
Demarco Murray
Melvin Gordon
Lamar Miller
Legarrette Blount
Latavius Murray
Todd Gurley
Rob Kelley
Frank Gore
Jeremy Hill

Among others.

Ware was 10th in the league in yards per carry among RB's with at least 200 carries.

STAGNANT!
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