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Old 01-02-2017, 10:24 AM  
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2016-2017 NFL Coach/GM changes and hires
Feel free to post rumors, articles and anything else change related. I will try to update the OP as I can

Fired:
49'ers-Chip Kelly, GM Trent Baalke
Bills-Rex Ryan and his feet
Chargers-Mike McCoy
Jaguars-Gus Bradley
Rams-Jeff Fisher
Broncos-Gary Kubiak (self-inflicted)
Redskins-DC Berry and three others

On the bubble:
Colts-Chuck Pagano (now safe)
Texans-Bill O'Brian
Saints-Sean Peyton (rumored now safe-fired a lot of assistant coaches)
Anyone in the Cleveland organization

Hired:
Gregg Williams replaces Ray Horton as Browns' defensive coordinator
Jaguars-Doug Marrone with assistance from Tom Coughlin-cough cough
Rams- Sean McVay Redskins OC hired by the Rams as their new HC.
Chargers/Ermines- Anthony Lynn---WHO?
Rams-Wade Phillips Named Rams DC
Bills-coach Sean McDermott and GM Doug Whaley.


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The San Diego Chargers to become the Los Angeles Ermines?
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Old 01-03-2017, 10:50 PM   #136
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Gruden would be an spectacularly bad hire.

Hell, he wasn't even that good the first time around and left the Bucs organization in shambles.

Raiders, too.
I think the biggest issue is the Bucs never made a big investment at QB (iirc) until he was gone. Was it his fault? I'm not sure.
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Old 01-03-2017, 10:58 PM   #137
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I think the biggest issue is the Bucs never made a big investment at QB (iirc) until he was gone. Was it his fault? I'm not sure.
He did the same thing in Tampa as he did in Oakland: Recommend Bruce Allen and create another version of the "Over The Hill Gang".

It took the Raiders 14 years to recover and the Bucs haven't been in the playoffs since a 2007 WC loss to the Giants.

They lost in the WC round in 2005, too.

Gruden sucks.
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Old 01-04-2017, 01:39 AM   #138
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I think he's okay and would keep people interested in a shitty team and would pull em out of the abyss.

Is he the top choice? No, not at all. I'd choose him over shit like Josh McDaniels, though.
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Old 01-04-2017, 08:18 AM   #139
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He did the same thing in Tampa as he did in Oakland: Recommend Bruce Allen and create another version of the "Over The Hill Gang".

It took the Raiders 14 years to recover and the Bucs haven't been in the playoffs since a 2007 WC loss to the Giants.

They lost in the WC round in 2005, too.

Gruden sucks.
I also think we will really find out what the raiders are. playing a 3/4th place schedule. Did they beat anyone with a winning record?
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Old 01-04-2017, 09:18 AM   #140
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Old 01-04-2017, 09:50 AM   #141
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If Elway was smart he'd bring Haley in as HC because of his hatred for KC. Then tell him Wade has to be D.C. But I hope he doesn't go that route...
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Old 01-04-2017, 09:58 AM   #142
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If Elway was smart he'd bring Haley in as HC because of his hatred for KC. Then tell him Wade has to be D.C. But I hope he doesn't go that route...
I would imagine that Haley hates Pioli.

Not sure why he'd harbor any continued animosity towards Kansas City. I guess he could still be upset with Clark but the pecking order was established when he took the job; he was always going to be the guy that got the ax before Pioli did.
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Old 01-04-2017, 12:33 PM   #143
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I'd put Clark Hunt in the top 5 owners in the league.

He takes a lot of unjust shit, but he ate a ton of money on Pioli. He spent for an elite coaching staff, spent a lot on Dorsey and Ballard and the scouting departments.

He's spent on players.

I really don't know what else he could have done as an owner.
Since he's been the owner he's proven that when he needs to, he'll get the best option out there. Pioli sucked but that the time he was hired, he was the best candidate out there by most people's standards.
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Rams will interview Bills interim coach Anthony Lynn on Sunday in Florida, per source. Nothing is considered imminent with Bills after Lynn interviewed with them today in Florida.
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What I have noticed over the years is that behind every great quarterback is a coach ready to take the credit.

Or in the absence of a great quarterback, you build a balanced team and hope you don't run into a team with that guy at quarterback who is having a great game.
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Chargers announce team completed first interview for vacant head coach position with Tampa Bay Buccaneers defensive coordinator Mike Smith on Thursday.
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Chargers announce team completed first interview for vacant head coach position with Tampa Bay Buccaneers defensive coordinator Mike Smith on Thursday.
The former Atlanta HC?

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They'll suck.

Anybody that's been out of the game for 10 years will be woefully unprepared to step back into it, IMO. The hours and the preparation has been increasing exponentially for a decade.

The guy won a championship because his assistant didn't bother to change the terminology in Oakland after he took over the team. That's the NFL that Gruden left. The NFL he tries to re-enter will eat his ass alive.

He's gotten way too comfortable with his TV gig, IMO. He wouldn't have the drive to do the job right.
I've been saying so for years. This board was ****ing clamoring over Cowher and Gruden when we hired Reid. Guys that have been out of the league very long at all just lose touch so quick. Cowher sounds like a window licker anyway. I have no idea why anyone would want him. And Gruden is a function of good TV production. He (and everyone else on TV) picks a few points, hounds them hard, and everyone (read: dumbasses) thinking he is a genius. The only guy who appears to pick stuff out of the game is Collinsworth, and he's a large market sword swallower anyway, so it doesn't matter.

I'd have been done. If they'd have hired Cowher or Gruden, I'd have had to throw in the towel and resign myself to the fact that the organization is full of bumbling idiots that if they ever fell ass backwards into a win, it would be by sheer, blind luck.

Hiring a guy years out of football is a ****ing joke. Why do you think guys take coordinator positions after getting shitcanned?

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Gruden would be an spectacularly bad hire.

Hell, he wasn't even that good the first time around and left the Bucs organization in shambles.

Raiders, too.
What people don't remember is he won that Super Bowl early with that crazy good DL, and then did ****all. Everyone presumed he was good because he won a Super Bowl, but there were a LOT of years of bad ball being played in Tampa that he got a pass for because he was supposed to be some kind of prodigy. He was lucky.

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I think the biggest issue is the Bucs never made a big investment at QB (iirc) until he was gone. Was it his fault? I'm not sure.
Didn't they get Simms (Sims? I don't know how the hell to spell it) while he was there? I don't remember.
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