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Old 02-19-2018, 08:25 AM  
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Trump open to improving background checks, spokesman says

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/19/polit...ida/index.html

West Palm Beach, Florida (CNN)President Donald Trump "is supportive of efforts to improve the federal background check system" for gun purchases, less than a week after the Florida school shooting that killed 17 people.

Principal Deputy Press Secretary Raj Shah said in a statement on Monday that Trump spoke with Sen. John Cornyn, a Texas Republican, on Friday about a bill he introduced with Sen. Chris Murphy, a Connecticut Democrat, that aims to strengthen how state and federal governments report offenses that could prohibit people from buying a gun.

"While discussions are ongoing and revisions are being considered, the President is supportive of efforts to improve the federal background check system," Shah said. Students, teachers and lawmakers have urged Trump and other Republican lawmakers to take action on guns in the wake of the Parkland, Florida, shooting.

Trump, however, ran for president as a pro-gun candidate and tied himself to the National Rifle Association throughout the campaign. He also said he was open to banning bump stocks in the wake of last fall's Las Vegas shooting, but there hasn't been significant further action by the White House on that front.

Trump's only action on guns as president undid restrictions aimed at mental illness by signing a measure that nixed a regulation that required the Social Security Administration to disclose information quarterly to the national gun background check system about certain people with mental illness. It's unclear whether that measure would have helped prevent last week's massacre.

A pro-gun candidate

Though Trump ran as an anti-gun control candidate in 2016, before he was a political figure he backed a ban on assault weapons and a longer waiting period for people to buy a weapon.

"I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun," he wrote in his 2000 book, "The America We Deserve." "With today's Internet technology, we should be able to tell within 72 hours if a potential gun owner has a record."

Trump, who said at a 2016 debate that he no longer supported an assault-weapons ban, made gun rights a centerpiece of his campaign.

"The Second Amendment is on the ballot in November," he said at an NRA gathering during the 2016 campaign. "The only way to save our Second Amendment is to vote for a person that you all know named Donald Trump."
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Old 02-20-2018, 05:49 PM   #166
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No I think saying that a TEACHER who doesn't want to carry a gun is unfit for TEACHING is the dumbest shit I've read.

And that includes people who want to take away all guns to stop the shootings. HCFs idea was stupider than that.

A mandatory resource officer would be the best idea. I don't know why more schools don't have one. But requiring teachers to carry guns in order to teach is amazingly stupid.
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Apply the kid test.... If it was your kind in a school would you like one resource officer way on the other side of the school to be the only one packing?
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Old 02-20-2018, 06:42 PM   #167
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Apply the kid test.... If it was your kind in a school would you like one resource officer way on the other side of the school to be the only one packing?
More like at the middle school covering the food fights....
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Old 02-20-2018, 07:19 PM   #168
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Why the hell someone is against putting an armed military combat vet in schools is beyond me. They have been fighting for kids / people of and in another country and in a conflict that they might not necessarily agree with but they did it. They would love the opportunity to protect our own children. Teachers with guns in school = bad idea imo. Can you imagine that dumb ass Kotter with a gun in the classroom?????????? **** that shit all to hell.
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Old 02-20-2018, 08:18 PM   #169
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Why the hell someone is against putting an armed military combat vet in schools is beyond me. They have been fighting for kids / people of and in another country and in a conflict that they might not necessarily agree with but they did it. They would love the opportunity to protect our own children. Teachers with guns in school = bad idea imo. Can you imagine that dumb ass Kotter with a gun in the classroom?????????? **** that shit all to hell.
I must of missed the post where that was suggested, that's another good idea.

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I must of missed the post where that was suggested, that's another good idea.

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Meh, he'd have it buried so far in the ground nobody would be in danger, especially an active shooter.
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Apply the kid test.... If it was your kind in a school would you like one resource officer way on the other side of the school to be the only one packing?
All doors should be locked other than the main door so just place the resource officer by the door like they did at my school and he will see everyone that comes in.

Or have 2 officers at opposite ends of the school.
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Old 02-20-2018, 09:58 PM   #172
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All doors should be locked other than the main door so just place the resource officer by the door like they did at my school and he will see everyone that comes in.

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Might think that one through. What about a fire? That is a real possibility also. Probably more likely in most schools. We don't want those kids trapped in a burning building.

It sucks because there are no easy answers to something like this
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So trump is going to address bump stock, and some Other things. Even if I disagree I can respect action
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All doors should be locked other than the main door so just place the resource officer by the door like they did at my school and he will see everyone that comes in.

Or have 2 officers at opposite ends of the school.
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Might think that one through. What about a fire? That is a real possibility also. Probably more likely in most schools. We don't want those kids trapped in a burning building.

It sucks because there are no easy answers to something like this
Exit possible, no entry...most schools have that now
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So trump is going to address bump stock, and some Other things. Even if I disagree I can respect action
Can't agree there. Doing something for the sake of doing something is bad policy IMO. But, I can see where it helps him with the media I guess.

Of course, they will turn on him once he does whatever it is they want him to do anyways. It is a lose/lose for Trump IMO.
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Can't agree there. Doing something for the sake of doing something is bad policy IMO. But, I can see where it helps him with the media I guess.

Of course, they will turn on him once he does whatever it is they want him to do anyways. It is a lose/lose for Trump IMO.
Bump stocks shoulder mounted is inaccurate as ****, but like the vegas shooter who had tripods it limits that. It's a bone to throw without doing much
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Exit possible, no entry...most schools have that now
I thought about that too. We had a door like that when I was a punk. It's where the teachers used to step outside to smoke. They just propped it open.
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Bump stocks shoulder mounted is inaccurate as ****, but like the vegas shooter who had tripods it limits that. It's a bone to throw without doing much
Sure. Can't argue that. I have honestly never even seen one in real life TBH. But, what does eliminating them gain outside of some "feel good" legislation? I'm just not a fan of the throwing a bone kinda thing because eventually it will be "the bone" that pertains to me and mine.

It doesn't much matter, Trump will do what his people tell him to do here. More power to him
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