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Old 04-04-2018, 09:11 AM  
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Britain Can’t Prove Russia Behind Poisoning, Still Talks Retaliation

Scientists can't say where poison came from

Weeks of repeatedly blaming the Russian government for the Salisbury poisonings is starting to look pretty embarrassing for the British government. Today, scientists at Porton Down said they were unable to say where the poison actually came from.

British officials, of course, are undeterred in their accusations, and a spokesman for Prime Minister Theresa May talked openly about Britain’s desire to retaliate in some “proportionate” way to the poisoning of a former Russian spy and his daughter.
May is a globalist imperialist and reckless cuck, endangering the world with such talk bringing us to the brink of war. IMO it's all designed, to keep Trump in a box on improving relations with Russia which is not just in our interests but the world's.
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Old 04-04-2018, 04:23 PM   #46
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I heard some guy walked up behind them, caught a fart in his hand and threw the invisible bomb at their faces and was seen shouting "CUP-A-CHEEEESE" as he dashed away.
It's actually reported that the agent was smeared on the front door handle of their home.
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Old 04-04-2018, 04:24 PM   #47
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Yeah, that's great and all but did you know that England and France (among others) INVADED RUSSIA BY ATTACKING SEVASTOPOL during the Crimean War? I mean, JFC!
I've read this has it's roots in The Crusades.
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Old 04-04-2018, 04:31 PM   #48
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whooof. This thread is a beatdown.
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Old 04-04-2018, 04:35 PM   #49
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As to Donger's smear of the paleo-right antiwar.com—their reporting on the run-up to Iraq was impeccably accurate. Same with the Clinton wars in the Balkans.
Can you prove that, or are we to just take your word on it? Was antiwar.com even around in 2003?

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Afterall, they have three former CIA who write for them and some of the best of the old school progressive (as in classical liberal types) investigative reporters like Seymour Hersh and others. Hersh says the Russian collusion story is nonsense as does progressive Ray McGovern former CIA who doesn't even like Trump otherwise. Seymour Hersh insists that "RussiaGate Is A CIA-Planted Lie, Revenge Against Trump".
Oh, I see. You are vehemently anti-CIA, unless the former spooks just happen to agree with you.

That's.... just shocking to know. Shocking, I tell you.
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Old 04-04-2018, 04:40 PM   #50
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It's actually reported that the agent was smeared on the front door handle of their home.
Wow, they are (or at least she is) lucky they weren't exposed on the way in and fell ill inside their house, they may still have been undiscovered.
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Old 04-04-2018, 04:53 PM   #51
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Can you prove that, or are we to just take your word on it? Was antiwar.com even around in 2003?



Oh, I see. You are vehemently anti-CIA, unless the former spooks just happen to agree with you.

That's.... just shocking to know. Shocking, I tell you.
Didn't you know? Tammy reads CIA.
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Old 04-04-2018, 05:33 PM   #53
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I never said it was an act of random violence. There's nothing random about this.

What I have said is simple: Cui bono?
Cochise explained cui bono to you in the post you called lies. The Russians stand to gain. Especially if the west refuses to effectively respond.
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Old 04-04-2018, 06:17 PM   #54
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What does any of this have to do with allowing foreign governments to commit murder or attempted murder on your own sovereign soil? I mean, really, WWI?

Yeah, nothing, ya dumb bitch.
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Old 04-04-2018, 07:04 PM   #55
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Actually, if you had read the source material, you would have read this:

Aitkenhead said: “We were able to identify it as novichok, to identify it was a military-grade nerve agent. We have not verified the precise source, but we have provided the scientific information to the government, who have then used a number of other sources to piece together the conclusions that they have come to.”

He said the location of manufacture could be established through “a number of different input sources which the government has access to”, adding: “Scientific evidence is only one of those sources.”
Slam dunk, right?

Maybe they should publish the information and those sources.
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Old 04-04-2018, 07:35 PM   #56
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Slam dunk, right?

Maybe they should publish the information and those sources.
The chemical freaks have done their jobs and identified the agent deployed as Novichok. They've even determined the specific type of Novichok utilized.

As to sources and methods, no, of course the Brits aren't going to release that. No one does.
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Slam dunk, right?

Maybe they should publish the information and those sources.
Why in the world would they?
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The chemical freaks have done their jobs and identified the agent deployed as Novichok. They've even determined the specific type of Novichok utilized.

As to sources and methods, no, of course the Brits aren't going to release that. No one does.
So, just trust them?
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Why in the world would they?
Well if you're going to cancel a soccer tournament, maybe some evidence would be nice.
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Cochise explained cui bono to you in the post you called lies. The Russians stand to gain. Especially if the west refuses to effectively respond.
That was all paranoid gibberish - wild suppositions that can't be taken any more seriously than any other conspiracy theory. First, there's not even evidence that it's the nerve agent being reported. Secondly, guessing at Putin's motives and calling it obvious is sophomoronic.

You guys will buy anything when it comes to global war. The same people cheerleading the Iraq war are completely fooled again. Unless, of course, it's our Democrat leaders giving Uranium for "Charity Donations." When that happens, it's treated like an amusing little folly. Oops!
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