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Just Passin' By · 10-30-2014, 04:12 PM

With the announced female leads (Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman) and other potential female-led superhero movies (i.e. Warner rumored to be developing an all female Spider-Man spinoff) being discussed, I'm just wondering what this forum thinks of them. Will you have interest? Will you go watch them? Do you think they'll be big hits?

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-31-2014, 03:31 PM

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I vote Natalie Dormer.

I think she's a great actress but I know absolutely nothing about the character.

**Reaper16** · 10-31-2014, 03:38 PM

If a female lead character makes you disinterested in a film then you are a total asshole.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-31-2014, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

2017 is wonder woman. I would not be surprised to see that date pushed back, or to see the entire dc slate delayed.

Speaking of DC and Warner's, they sure are pushing hard with Batman v. Superman, Justice League, Wonder Woman and now Aquaman.

I've seen Man of Steel three times now and I still can't decide whether or not I like it. As much as I've enjoyed the Nolan Batman universe, I like the casting of Affleck and think he has the chops to make a grizzled, tired Batman come to life in a way we haven't seen on screen yet. Gal Gadot is a knockout and if Warner's can convince their "Dream Director", Kathryn Bigelow, to jump on board, it has a chance to be a phenomenal series.

All that said, the movie I'm most curious about is Aquaman. Jason Mamoa is a likeable actor and the idea of a "Surfer Dude" Aquaman is really intriquing, but I just don't know how this movie can be pulled off without being hokey.

**Easy 6** · 10-31-2014, 03:51 PM

Honestly, they just dont interest me at all.

ScarJo as a sidekick in Avengers is one thing, but chicks kicking ass as the lead never looks right to me, theres always an air of unbelievability to it... and it isnt sexist, its just realist.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-31-2014, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

Honestly, they just dont interest me at all.

ScarJo as a sidekick in Avengers is one thing, but chicks kicking ass as the lead never looks right to me, theres always an air of unbelievability to it... and it isnt sexist, its just realist.

With Wonder Woman, Warner's has changed her back story. She's no longer an "Amazonian Princess Warrior" but an immortal that is the offspring of Zeus. I would think that would make her pretty bad ass.

That said, I don't know which is hokier: Demi-god or Amazonian Warrior Princess? But the whole "Demi-God" thing is an odd choice, IMO.

**Reaper16** · 10-31-2014, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

Honestly, they just dont interest me at all.

ScarJo as a sidekick in Avengers is one thing, but chicks kicking ass as the lead never looks right to me, theres always an air of unbelievability to it... and it isnt sexist, its just realist.

We're literally talking about people with cosmic or genetic superpowers.

keg in kc · 10-31-2014, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Speaking of DC and Warner's, they sure are pushing hard with Batman v. Superman, Justice League, Wonder Woman and now Aquaman.

I've seen Man of Steel three times now and I still can't decide whether or not I like it. As much as I've enjoyed the Nolan Batman universe, I like the casting of Affleck and think he has the chops to make a grizzled, tired Batman come to life in a way we haven't seen on screen yet. Gal Gadot is a knockout and if Warner's can convince their "Dream Director", Kathryn Bigelow, to jump on board, it has a chance to be a phenomenal series.

All that said, the movie I'm most curious about is Aquaman. Jason Mamoa is a likeable actor and the idea of a "Surfer Dude" Aquaman is really intriquing, but I just don't know how this movie can be pulled off without being hokey.

I actually liked Man of Steel more than the Avengers. I know that's blasphemy among comics fans. Which is not to in any way say that I disliked the Avengers. But I only own one of them on bluray.

Superman to me is just not all that interesting a character. Iconic? Yes. But he's basically a god. I'm glad they tried to add some gravitas and internal struggle to it. This isn't the 70s, and that flag waving boy scout schtick just doesn't work anymore. The world is grayer (note I did not say 'darker'). I thought most of the complaint about the film's ending, in particular all the death and destruction in Metropolis, was just nitpicky bullshit. Man of Steel was about him becoming Superman, learning the limits of his powers and how to use them. That was was not a fully matured and fleshed out superhero wantonly destroying a city because he didn't give a shit. I predicted at the time that the supposed lack of consequences for that destruction would be because that reaction was going to be a core part of the sequel. Which lo and behold it apparently is.

So yeah, I thought it was a pretty good flick. And it was markedly different from what Marvel is (or was, at the time) doing, which then was more family oriented and light-hearded. We'll see how it plays now that Marvel's taken a darker tone with the events of Iron Man 3, Winter Soldier and assumedly Avengers 2. But they (meaning DC) seem to be trying to do their films their own way, and I think that's a good choice. I mean, sure, steal some of what Marvel's gotten right, but make it your own niche. If that means a darker color palette or more dour/serious movies, then I say more power to them. There's plenty of room for variety.

I'm a big Momoa fan going all the way back to his days on Stargate: Atlantis, but I'm like you in feeling unsure about how that's going to play out. It just doesn't feel right for some reason.

Frosty · 10-31-2014, 04:19 PM

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All that said, the movie I'm most curious about is Aquaman. Jason Mamoa is a likeable actor and the idea of a "Surfer Dude" Aquaman is really intriquing, but I just don't know how this movie can be pulled off without being hokey.

In the Justice League animated series a few years ago, Aquaman was portrayed that way -kind of a laid back goofball. His personality was kind of a less stuffy Thor. I wonder if that is the tact they are going to take?

The biggest problem with Aquaman is it kind has to take place in the water a good part of the time and movies like that kind of suck. Anyone remember the Patrick Duffy Aquaman-like series way back when (Man from Atlantis)? It was mostly him swimming around holding his breath.

**Easy 6** · 10-31-2014, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

With Wonder Woman, Warner's has changed her back story. She's no longer an "Amazonian Princess Warrior" but an immortal that is the offspring of Zeus. I would think that would make her pretty bad ass.

That said, I don't know which is hokier: Demi-god or Amazonian Warrior Princess? But the whole "Demi-God" thing is an odd choice, IMO.

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

We're literally talking about people with cosmic or genetic superpowers.

The goddess thing is definitely different and maybe its just me... but I just dont enjoy watching women in "kick ass" roles as much, even if they're mutants or gods or whatever the backstory is.

Movies like Salt and Resident Evil or Aeon Flux with some superbadass female lead? they just dont interest me at all.

If others dig it, hey, more power to them... its just a movie anyway.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-31-2014, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I actually liked Man of Steel more than the Avengers. I know that's blasphemy among comics fans. Which is not to in any way say that I disliked the Avengers. But I only own one of them on bluray.

I'm in the minority but I don't like The Avengers, at all. I bought it on Blu-Ray (MOS as well) and just didn't like the direction, story or much of the acting (save Downey and Ruffalo, who is quickly becoming my favorite actor).

I really enjoyed Iron Man 3, which ironically, I did not purchase on Blu-Ray but instead waited for it on cable because The Avengers and Captain America: The First Avenger didn't do it for me and Iron Man 2, IMO, sucked. I'm glad I waited on Thor 2 as well because that was disappointing for me.

I heard so many good things about The Winter Soldier that I purchased it on Blu-Ray and really enjoyed it. I've yet to see Guardians of the Galaxy but I'll pre-order it so that it arrives on December 9th. I bought The Wolverine and X-Men: Days of Future Past and thought both were awesome.

Hugh Jackman is the man.

Frosty · 10-31-2014, 04:31 PM

I know the Resident Evil films are kind of terrible but I love them anyway. I own all of them and will keep watching as long as they keep casting Milla Jovovich.

Another set of movies with a kick ass female lead that I like is Underworld.

**Easy 6** · 10-31-2014, 04:35 PM

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I know the Resident Evil films are kind of terrible but I love them anyway. I own all of them and will keep watching as long as they keep casting Milla Jovovich.

Another set of movies with a kick ass female lead that I like is Underworld.

Heh, I've watched all of the RE movies just to look at her when theres nothing else on.

Frosty · 10-31-2014, 04:41 PM

One key to having a good female lead for an action type film is to make sure they are athletic (or athaletic if you are Rich Gannon). Having non-athletic women try to run, jump, throw a punch, etc just looks funny and takes you out of the moment.

Direckshun · 10-31-2014, 05:05 PM

***Iron Man 3 spoiler***

Spoiler!

keg in kc · 10-31-2014, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'm in the minority but I don't like The Avengers, at all. I bought it on Blu-Ray (MOS as well) and just didn't like the direction, story or much of the acting (save Downey and Ruffalo, who is quickly becoming my favorite actor).

I really enjoyed Iron Man 3, which ironically, I did not purchase on Blu-Ray but instead waited for it on cable because The Avengers and Captain America: The First Avenger didn't do it for me and Iron Man 2, IMO, sucked. I'm glad I waited on Thor 2 as well because that was disappointing for me.

I heard so many good things about The Winter Soldier that I purchased it on Blu-Ray and really enjoyed it. I've yet to see Guardians of the Galaxy but I'll pre-order it so that it arrives on December 9th. I bought The Wolverine and X-Men: Days of Future Past and thought both were awesome.

Hugh Jackman is the man.

Iron Man 2 was pretty bad. I liked Iron Man 3 more than most, and didn't have a bit of problem with the way they handled the Mandarin. Winter Soldier was really, really good. I thought it transcended the 'comic' label in much the same way that the Nolan trilogy did. It was more of an espionage thriller. I loved Guardians. There were some moments that didn't work here and there, but it was a hell of a lot of fun.

I still haven't seen The Wolverine, but saw DoFP the weekend it opened, and thought it was great.

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Just Passin' By In Search of a Life Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $5460524	Female led superhero movies With the announced female leads (Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman) and other potential female-led superhero movies (i.e. Warner rumored to be developing an all female Spider-Man spinoff) being discussed, I'm just wondering what this forum thinks of them. Will you have interest? Will you go watch them? Do you think they'll be big hits?
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Easy 6 pie is never free Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the drivers seat Casino cash: $3777775	Honestly, they just dont interest me at all. ScarJo as a sidekick in Avengers is one thing, but chicks kicking ass as the lead never looks right to me, theres always an air of unbelievability to it... and it isnt sexist, its just realist.
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Frosty Go Beavers! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Warshington Casino cash: $5728243	I know the Resident Evil films are kind of terrible but I love them anyway. I own all of them and will keep watching as long as they keep casting Milla Jovovich. Another set of movies with a kick ass female lead that I like is Underworld.
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Frosty Go Beavers! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Warshington Casino cash: $5728243	One key to having a good female lead for an action type film is to make sure they are athletic (or athaletic if you are Rich Gannon). Having non-athletic women try to run, jump, throw a punch, etc just looks funny and takes you out of the moment.
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10-31-2014, 05:05 PM	#59
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4423447	*Iron Man 3 spoiler* Spoiler! I do think Marvel screwed the pooch a bit in IM3 (a movie I really enjoyed) by "restoring" Gweneth Paltrow to "normal." She had just one bit of action in that movie and it was phenomenal, and her character's had three-plus films to become three dimensional. I know they have zero comics dedicated to her, but it could have been very cerebral and interesting to watch it develop. Maybe watch a character decide if she wants to take the next step to Superhero but ultimately decide against it.
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