Decision to be made on #1 four days before draft

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

According to NFL network. Reid and Dorsey have narrowed it down to 4 players and meet three times a day to discuss. They report the final decision will be made 4 days before the draft. Also report that Albert has no intention of showing up at this time because he expects to be traded.

So who are the 4 ?

[Mother****erJones]

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[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by B14ckmon

How many of those years did the Chiefs have the #1 overall pick?

We had the 3rd overall and 5th overall.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by B14ckmon

Stafford had a better arm IMO.

Stronger arm is not a better arm. Go ask Jamarcus Russell, Kyle Boller, David Klingler and Jeff George about that.

Stafford, in college, had zero touch. He's still below mediocre in that regard now.

And Geno can drop it on a dime from 50 yards in-between two defenders. That's enough of an arm for me and better than we've ever had in a Chiefs uniform.

[B14ckmon]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Stafford was a better project than Geno. Period.

He didn't just have a better arm, he had three years of increasingly productive play in the premiere college conference while playing in a pro-style offense.

Geno was great his year in the pro style offense. But that was in a shitrific conference. Though they did play LSU/NC State/Pitt.

[B14ckmon]

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life

We had the 3rd overall and 5th overall.

That's my point. You had other teams in front of you then. The #1 seed only jerks around about players they think others will trade up for.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by B14ckmon

How many of those years did the Chiefs have the #1 overall pick?

How many of those years did the Chiefs have a top five pick?

They've had their chances at the top tackles, and probably should have drafted Okung when it was early and moving Albert wasn't an issue.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

What?

How is this a deep tackle draft?

Johnson is a converted QB, DE and TE.

Joeckel wasn't even the best offensive tackle on his college team.

Fisher played at Central Michigan and will have a steep curve ahead of him.

DJ Fluker is most likely a guard.

Long and Pugh are just guys.

In fact, I like guys like Ricky Wagner, Tanner Hawkinson and Oday Aboushi as much as Johnson, Fisher and Joeckel.

And, as I said previously, I'd take Barrett Jones before any of them.

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/stor...r-lane-johnson

The 2008 NFL Draft is remembered for the two first-round home runs at quarterback — the Atlanta Falcons' Matt Ryan and Baltimore Ravens' Joe Flacco. But the standout position was offensive tackle.

The class produced standouts as the Miami Dolphins' Jake Long (now with the St. Louis Rams), the Broncos' Ryan Clady and the Houston Texans' Duane Brown quickly emerged among the AFC's best.

Throw in Branden Albert, Sam Baker and Gosder Cherilus, and it was a pretty good tackle haul in Round 1.

The 2013 Draft class has the same potential. Luke Joeckel, Eric Fisher and Lane Johnson are ready to have an immediate impact on the left side with their Pro Bowl-caliber skills. There also are rising prospects who might help this year's class trump the outside blocking riches of five years ago.

1. Luke Joeckel, Texas A&M (6-6, 306 pounds). Joeckel looks the part of a long-term athletic rock at left tackle, and there are no concerns about his character or football instincts. He is the best overall prospect in this draft, and it would be shocking if he slipped as far as No. 4 to the Philadelphia Eagles. The Kansas City Chiefs could still take him at No. 1, despite using the franchise tag on Albert. Having played in a fast-paced offense with Johnny Manziel will only help Joeckel in the NFL.


2. Eric Fisher, Central Michigan (6-7 1/4, 306). Fisher is doing his best to push Joeckel for the draft's top position, and tackle-needy teams should gladly take him in the top five after Joeckel is off the board. The home state Detroit Lions would be a great fit, as Fisher could replace retired Jeff Backus.

3. Lane Johnson, Oklahoma (6-6, 303). Johnson might slip out of the top 10, but that will be based only needs of drafting teams once Joeckel and Fisher are snagged. He's not quite at their level but still will be a fine immediate starter to plant at left tackle. The San Diego Chargers would be thrilled to get him at No. 11.

4. Menelik Watson, Florida State (6-5 1/8, 310). Watson has been a late riser because of his pure athleticism. He has excellent foot skills, which is why there is a growing belief he will transition nicely to left tackle. He is a bit raw, given he used to play basketball and is new to big-time football competition.

5. D.J. Fluker, Alabama (6-4 5/8, 339). Fluker stands out as the powerful right tackle of this class, and that shouldn't be a surprise considering he's a product of the Crimson Tide's run-blocking machine. He has improved his conditioning and should sneak into the latter half of the first round.

6. Kyle Long, Oregon (6-6 1/8, 313). He's the son of Pro Football Hall of Fame defensive lineman Howie Long and brother of Rams defensive end Chris Long, the No. 2 overall pick in 2008 Draft. Kyle Long developed strong hands while run-blocking as a guard, has the nimble feet of a left tackle and makes good use of his frame. His pedigree should make him a solid second-round pick.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Stafford was a better project than Geno. Period.

He didn't just have a better arm, he had three years of increasingly productive play in the premiere college conference while playing in a pro-style offense.

Stafford never passed for better than 61% in college (and he was a shitty 52 and 55% his first two years).

51 TDs to 33 Ints.

That's not Geno level numbers - and he had a running game and defense to support him.

He has a cannon. But there is also a reason that the Lions made Calvin Johnson the richest man in the NFL - because Stafford still has no touch and needs a guy like Johnson to make those plays downfield.

Right now, he's Culpepper with Moss.

He was drafted that high for the same reason guys like Jamarcus Russell, Jay Cutler and Kyler Boller were drafted high - huge arm.

But let's not make it out like he was the second coming of Elway. He wasn't.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yet you seem excited we have taken the route that has worked fewer times than the other?

Where do you get that? Seriously? Assume much?

If you had been paying attention in other threads I have said I would be happy if they drafted Geno #1. But some of the people here only care about drafting a QB in the first round - and don't even give a shit if it is a good one. As if the very act of drafting a QB #1 is the goal.

I don't care how we win, as long as we win. The draft is a means to an end, it is not the end. We don't play the games in order to draft, we draft in order to play the games. Many on this forum have lost site of that.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by B14ckmon

That's my point. You had other teams in front of you then. The #1 seed only jerks around about players they think others will trade up for.

Yes but the top OTs were available i believe

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

If you want that guy, then you draft Barrett Jones with your third rounder, though I think he's gone in the second.

Three time first team All-American at three different line positions and won the Outland Trophy at Left Tackle his junior year.

He's the best offensive lineman in this draft. Big, very smart and plays as nasty and mean as I've ever seen a offensive lineman play.

I have no idea why he's not getting the same press as guys like Joeckel, Fisher and Johnson (who wouldn't be the OU lineman people would be talking about as a first rounder if Don Stephenson stayed in school and came out this year).

Lisfranc.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Stafford never passed for better than 61% in college (and he was a shitty 52 and 55% his first two years).

51 TDs to 33 Ints.

That's not Geno level numbers - and he had a running game and defense to support him.

He has a cannon. But there is also a reason that the Lions made Calvin Johnson the richest man in the NFL - because Stafford still has no touch and needs a guy like Johnson to make those plays downfield.

Right now, he's Culpepper with Moss.

He was drafted that high for the same reason guys like Jamarcus Russell, Jay Cutler and Kyler Boller were drafted high - huge arm.

But let's not make it out like he was the second coming of Elway. He wasn't.

Im a Geno supporter but Im sure his compl % was inflated due to screen passes that he threw alot

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life

My goal is to win a Super Bowl. Tell me the list of QBs the past 15 years who wasnt a first round QB? Not many off the top of my head besides the lucky ass Pats with Brady, you had Brees, Brad Johnson. Everyone else was 1st round and high first round. Atleast teams try. We dont EVEN TRY

And how many 1st round QBs have not won a SB? We had one on the team last year. We have one on the team right now. WINNING is all that is important. But if you cream your pants at the very thought of a 1st round pick, fine. I want results, and I don't give a shit if it is a 1st round QB or a 7th that does it.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life

Im a Geno supporter but Im sure his compl % was inflated due to screen passes that he threw alot

Yup.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by splatbass

And how many 1st round QBs have not won a SB? We had one on the team last year. We have one on the team right now. WINNING is all that is important. But if you cream your pants at the very thought of a 1st round pick, fine. I want results, and I don't give a shit if it is a 1st round QB or a 7th that does it.

Youre more likely to win with a 1st rounder. Yes we have Alex. But Franchise QBs arent traded. Im just not completely sold on putting all the eggs in his basket. Take a top QB prospect while we got the chance