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Old 08-31-2018, 03:09 PM  
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FISA Court Held NO HEARINGS on Carter Page Warrants

by Cristina Laila August 31, 2018


The Justice Department admitted in a court filing this week that the FISA court never held hearings on the FISA applications for former Trump advisor Carter Page.

One FISA warrant and three subsequent FISA renewals on Carter Page were obtained by Obama’s corrupt FBI in order to spy on Trump’s campaign.

Via Judicial Watch:

‘[N]o such hearings were held with respect to the acknowledged FISA applications. Accordingly, no responsive hearing transcripts exist.’

(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch today announced that in response to a Judicial Watch Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit, the Justice Department (DOJ) admitted in a court filing last night that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court held no hearings on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) spy warrant applications targeting Carter Page, a former Trump campaign part-time advisor who was the subject of four controversial FISA warrants.

In the filing the Justice Department finally revealed that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court held no hearings on the Page FISA spy warrants, first issued in 2016 and subsequently renewed three times:

[National Security Division] FOIA consulted [Office of Intelligence] … to identify and locate records responsive to [Judicial Watch’s] FOIA request…. [Office of Intelligence] determined … that there were no records, electronic or paper, responsive to [Judicial Watch’s] FOIA request with regard to Carter Page. [Office of Intelligence] further confirmed that the [Foreign Surveillance Court] considered the Page warrant applications based upon written submissions and did not hold any hearings.

President of Judicial Watch Tom Fitton had this to say about the new developments:

“It is disturbing that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance courts rubber-stamped the Carter Page spy warrants and held not one hearing on these extraordinary requests to spy on the Trump team. Perhaps the court can now hold hearings on how justice was corrupted by material omissions that Hillary Clinton’s campaign, the DNC, a conflicted Bruce Ohr, a compromised Christopher Steele, and anti-Trumper Peter Strzok were all behind the ‘intelligence’ used to persuade the courts to approve the FISA warrants that targeted the Trump team.”

In July, Judicial Watch obtained over 400 pages of heavily redacted Carter Page FISA documents.


Comey, Rosenstein, McCabe and Sally Yates all signed the FISA applications even though Hillary’s fraudulent Russia dossier was used as a pretext to obtain the warrants.

Obama’s Deep State DOJ and FBI withheld information about Hillary Clinton and the DNC being behind the information used to obtain the FISA warrant.

President Trump is reportedly moving to declassify the June 2017 FISA renewal which was signed by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and then-FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe.

Trump’s ace card is a declassification order on all Carter Page FISA docs and other documents related to the Russia witch hunt.



https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-...page-warrants/
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Old 08-31-2018, 08:29 PM   #76
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How do you define "hearings," comrade?


- A legal proceeding where an issue of law or fact is tried and evidence is presented to help determine the issue.


Again - you asserted in post #65 that the FISA Court does not hold hearings.

- Do you have a source to justify your claim?
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Old 08-31-2018, 08:32 PM   #77
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Old 08-31-2018, 08:37 PM   #78
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- A legal proceeding where an issue of law or fact is tried and evidence is presented to help determine the issue.
Great. And you think that did not happen with Page's warrant application?
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A very fitting picture per the Judicial Watch article:




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Old 08-31-2018, 08:39 PM   #80
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So let me get this straight.

People are defending a secret court where a warrant applications aren't even given a base scrutiny of a judge looking the applicant in the eye and seeing if they are sweating? Never mind a political figure, just anybody.

If you told the average American this 20 years ago they would of thought you were talking about some Iron Curtain hell hole and not the USA. To have people actually defending this is absurd. Tribalism truly makes people retarded.

Its time for Congress to override the Supreme Court and strip immunity from the Justice System. If any judge or justice objects, impeach them.
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Old 08-31-2018, 08:40 PM   #81
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Great. And you think that did not happen with Page's warrant application?

Let's be fair -

Again - you asserted in post #65 that the FISA Court does not hold hearings.

- Do you have a source to justify your claim?
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Old 08-31-2018, 08:41 PM   #82
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Let's be fair -

Again - you asserted in post #65 that the FISA Court does not hold hearings.

- Do you have a source to justify your claim?
Not the types of hearings that you said they do, comrade:

involve prosecutors and defense attorneys arguing on behalf of clients

Remember that gem?

Now, answer my question, comrade.
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Old 08-31-2018, 08:46 PM   #83
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So let me get this straight.

People are defending a secret court where a warrant applications aren't even given a base scrutiny of a judge looking the applicant in the eye and seeing if they are sweating? Never mind a political figure, just anybody.

If you told the average American this 20 years ago they would of thought you were talking about some Iron Curtain hell hole and not the USA. To have people actually defending this is absurd. Tribalism truly makes people retarded.

Its time for Congress to override the Supreme Court and strip immunity from the Justice System. If any judge or justice objects, impeach them.
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Old 08-31-2018, 08:55 PM   #84
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Not the types of hearings that you said they do, comrade:

involve prosecutors and defense attorneys arguing on behalf of clients

Remember that gem?

Now, answer my question, comrade.


I am concerned that you have a reading comprehension problem.

- Starting in post #11 - and 4 other subsequent times, I responded:

> "Yes -


- the government is the only party present. In other words, FISA court proceedings do not involve prosecutors and defense attorneys arguing on behalf of clients.

- The FISA court is simply hearing the requests of officials seeking search warrants. This is very similar to what happens when local law enforcement officials seek a search warrant.


> Do you understand that your evaluation of my response is completely the opposite of what you just asserted?
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Not the types of hearings that you said they do, comrade:

involve prosecutors and defense attorneys arguing on behalf of clients

Remember that gem?

Now, answer my question, comrade.
So tell us how it works.

FBI submits a FISA warrant asking for permission to spy on someone.

Is there any formal, in person presentation to justify the application in front of the judges?

What if a judge needs a question answered? Is it done thru email, texts, or telepathy?
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Not the types of hearings that you said they do, comrade:

involve prosecutors and defense attorneys arguing on behalf of clients

Remember that gem?

Now, answer my question, comrade.
What do you think you've discovered in those ambiguous words?
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by Cristina Laila August 31, 2018


The Justice Department admitted in a court filing this week that the FISA court never held hearings on the FISA applications for former Trump advisor Carter Page.

One FISA warrant and three subsequent FISA renewals on Carter Page were obtained by Obama’s corrupt FBI in order to spy on Trump’s campaign.
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What do you think you've discovered in those ambiguous words?
Can you answer my last question?
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Can you answer my last question?
No, I'm not familiar with the process.
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So tell us how it works.

FBI submits a FISA warrant asking for permission to spy on someone.

Is there any formal, in person presentation to justify the application in front of the judges?

What if a judge needs a question answered? Is it done thru email, texts, or telepathy?


Ex Parte Hearings.

- The prosecutor/FBI/DOJ (depending on the jurisdiction and type of case) appears before the judge - takes an oath - and provides a factual basis for the warrant applied.

- There are exceptions for "exigency."

- The Carter Page/Trump warrant application did not involve exigency.

- The Judicial Watch article above is essentially saying that the Carter Page warrant application was "Rubber Stamped."
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