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Old 07-18-2015, 12:06 PM  
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Trump is done

He was talking about McCain and said he likes people who haven't been captured. That should just about end his fake presidential run.
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Old 07-18-2015, 07:59 PM   #61
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Last time around, libs were saying similar things - calling McCain senile, saying he was a terrible pilot, saying he was weak for reading statements the nva had coerced him to read through torture. They got away with it, running down a good man like they did, because no one in the media would hold them to account.
I'm quite certain you can't find a single example of a presidential candidate saying anything like that.
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Old 07-18-2015, 08:02 PM   #62
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I htink it's wonderful that you have a person in the race on the conservative side who can just say whatever he wants, and shove truths out there that others might be inclined to tread lightly on as to not offend.

I think it's time to for us to be unconcerned about people who "are offended", and when somebody claims to be, tell them to shut the **** up, toughen up, or commit suicide (so the rest of us don't have to deal with them). Suffice it to say, "offended" people are weak and should not breed...
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Old 07-18-2015, 08:51 PM   #63
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I htink it's wonderful that you have a person in the race on the conservative side who can just say whatever he wants, and shove truths out there that others might be inclined to tread lightly on as to not offend.

I think it's time to for us to be unconcerned about people who "are offended", and when somebody claims to be, tell them to shut the **** up, toughen up, or commit suicide (so the rest of us don't have to deal with them). Suffice it to say, "offended" people are weak and should not breed...
Time?

Shit, it's happening.
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Old 07-18-2015, 08:58 PM   #64
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I think McCain has benefited greatly from his military history, and it's deserved, but it doesn't mean he's not due some criticism for what he's not accomplished for veterans while he's been in congress. He's become very political, and very under-spoken for a man who has the story and scars that he has. And for that to not translate into better funding for both the military and the VA, well that's terrible. While he does advocate for both DoD and the VA, he does it waaaaay to softly. At this point he's not even close to being the most vocal. And that's terrible. If this little tiff/call-out/wake-up call from Trump gets him back on track, then that's awesome.

But right now barry is ****ing the nation's veterans both during their active service and after, and we need people like McCain calling him out ruthlessly and indignantly until Barry puts veterans at the top of the list where they belong.
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Old 07-18-2015, 09:00 PM   #65
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Time?

Shit, it's happening.
What??? No, it's not happening... You say one little thing in this country and the ****ing ****-whore-assholes want to claim they're offended. And, since they don't beat-down for being a pussy, it's not happening.
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Old 07-18-2015, 09:05 PM   #66
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What??? No, it's not happening... You say one little thing in this country and the ****ing ****-whore-assholes want to claim they're offended. And, since they don't beat-down for being a pussy, it's not happening.
The PC police are losing sway every day. They had a nice, little run with Captain Incompetent at the helm, but it's coming back to bite them in the ass. These idiots are about to find out just how despised they are.
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Old 07-18-2015, 09:05 PM   #67
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I'm quite certain you can't find a single example of a presidential candidate saying anything like that.
No, it wasn't a candidate, I'm thinking back to the run of articles posted here and the general conversation around the election back then. It was quite a bit different than when Kerry was running and the sides were reversed and his time in SE Asia wasn't to be critiqued or questioned, but with McCain in some courts it seemed to be okay. So Trump is saying these same thing and the situation will reverse again.
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Old 07-18-2015, 09:11 PM   #68
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Honestly, it's pathetic.

A candidate with multiple deferments questions the "hero hero" status of an ex POW?

If this is the best the GOP can do, then God help them, cause they sure are not helping themselves.
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I'm real curious who you think is offended by this. It's a really embarrassing attack on a guy who suffered a lot more than most in the service of his country. Really very stupid and unfortunate and unappealing, but offensive? Not really.
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Old 07-18-2015, 09:23 PM   #70
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Honestly, it's pathetic.

A candidate with multiple deferments questions the "hero hero" status of an ex POW?

If this is the best the GOP can do, then God help them, cause they sure are not helping themselves.
I think they are a mess, but not one that can't get fixed if they could get over themselves. If they distance themselves from some of the "religious" stuff (not that they need to be atheists like liberals usually are, but not as churchy as they are now), and run somebody who's more "hip."
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Old 07-18-2015, 09:31 PM   #71
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I'm real curious who you think is offended by this. It's a really embarrassing attack on a guy who suffered a lot more than most in the service of his country. Really very stupid and unfortunate and unappealing, but offensive? Not really.
I think the "PC" angle isn't the point. While I agree that his service was awesome, but I'm also willing to accept that, because he's stopped advocating for the military and veterans as much as I think he should, being called-out isn't too terrible.

He's his own man, his service was awesome, but because of it I expect that he should be very forward with the POTUS in telling him to make sure the military and VA secretaries put in for all they need to do the job, and don't cut corners. Then he should meet with both secretaries and let them know that he's getting the numbers from other "military and VA-friendly groups, and what they predict they should need better be close to what each department asks for."

IOW, they need to ask for what they want, not something the POTUS tells them to ask for so he can pump-up other irrelevant programs that should take a back seat to anything they want/need.

But I'm biased...
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Old 07-18-2015, 09:37 PM   #72
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I think they are a mess, but not one that can't get fixed if they could get over themselves. If they distance themselves from some of the "religious" stuff (not that they need to be atheists like liberals usually are, but not as churchy as they are now), and run somebody who's more "hip."
And this is why Trump is, and will continue to sell; when you take away the braggadocio, he's as centrist as you will find. He's a self-made billionaire capitalist who understands quite clearly what the role of federal government is to be:

Protect the country and let the citizenry govern itself, one state at a time.

And give America the economic power necessary to compete and excel at home and abroad.
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And give America the economic power necessary to compete and excel at home and abroad.
His Smoot-Hawley-like Tariff will worsen the economy, just as it did during our Previous Great Depression. Trump is wrong on that one.
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His Smoot-Hawley-like Tariff will worsen the economy, just as it did during our Previous Great Depression. Trump is wrong on that one.
I disagree.
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I disagree.
I know. But you're wrong about it too. It didn't work before it worsened the economy. It's not the answer. Repealing the fake free trade agreements is the answer—not a trade war.
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