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Arizona posturing for de facto seccession
File this under "nullification isn't as dead as some would like you to believe it is."
http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/EJMontini/117684 E.J. Montini's Columns & Blog E.J. Montini is a columnist for The Arizona Republic. Arizona to secede (without OFFICIALLY doing so) Members of the state Legislature, including Arizona's de facto governor, Senate President Russell Pearce, have introduced a bill that essentially would have Arizona secede from the union without having to do so officially. Really. It's called SB1433, (See it here.) It creates a 12-member committee within the legislature that could "vote by simple majority to nullify in its entirety a specific federal law or regulation that is outside the scope of the powers delegated by the people to the federal government…" Committee members themselves would decide this, then pass along their recommendation to the full Legislature. If, in turn, a majority of state lawmakers go along with the committee then, according to the bill, "this state and its citizens shall not recognize or be obligated to live under the statute, mandate or executive order." The nullification committee also would be permitted to review all existing federal laws to see if our legislative geniuses want to toss them out as well. In every legislative session in every state throughout the land there are proposals like this, usually made by a few fringe members who know their proposal has no chance but file it anyway to serve some personal or political agenda. In this instance, legislators here -- who claim to be strict constitutionalists -- seem fairly willing to ignore what is commonly called the "supremacy clause" of the U.S. Constitution (as well as the Fourteenth Amendment), and which more or less say that federal law supersedes state law. A state or a person can challenge such laws in court. But a state can't on its own simply declare a federal law to be unconsitutional. Legislators who propose such things often are quietly patted on the heads and laughed off by their colleagues. In our case, however, the legislation is being proposed by, among others, Sen. Pearce, the most powerful person in state government. So, as wacky as the proposal is, that makes it much less of a laughing matter. Wednesday, February 2, 2011 at 11:57 AM |
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See, we can agree on some things. Just don't confuse knowledge with wisdom.
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What life experiences have you had that trump mine? I'm a firm believer in (not only the Church, which you wouldn't know about) the quality of the years, not the quantity of the years. You tell me what makes you better than me, and then we'll proceed from there. |
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And your posts display a know-it-all attitude from someone who has yet to step a foot out of the academic environment.
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Yes, they are. Though I am not catholic.
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Pete: secession good Jenson71: no, bad Pete: You're inexperienced Let's hear your case, pete. |
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My case for what? Secession? You tell us, Jenson, what is a State to do when it's people are fed up with the over-reaching of the Fed Gov?
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No, your case for experience. I want to know why your opinion is such much better than mine. You say it's because of experience. Well, what about it? What experiences specifically make your political opinion so much better than mine?
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But if I was in your place, I would tone down the rest of your act, and try applying some humility to your life-- you know live out your religion. Like I said before, I wouldn't share ANYTHING of my personal life with a creepy little central planner and drone like you. You and the other moonbats in here are like little washroom hens. Quote:
The fact is, you're a dopey kid who outside of a few books you read, don't know shit about shit, and all of your opinions and your perspective are COOKIE CUTTER LEFTIST CLAPTRAP. Do you really think that you are expressing original ideas? The older guys in here can't stand you because they've all heard it a thousand times already from a thousand other moonbats, and then you pile on your arrogance and it's no wonder people want to beat the crap out of you. Quote:
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