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Old 08-17-2018, 01:12 PM  
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Big gains this week.

Looks like China may be coming to the table supporting Trumps hard line.

Looks like Mexico an US are getting closer and if they do , Canada will come to talk.

Profits excellent

Regulation more reasonable

So, where is the play?

Tech? Maybe overbought. Tesla in freefall as market may see them as a battery company with a cool car. And Musk did show he is unstable. Great vision guy who is a bit of a nut.

If China comes around, commodities may be a play?

Pharma? Some big gains recently.

Trumps economy driven by improvements in regs, the first wave of tax reform, and a amazing focus on America first....shold continue? For sure American Exceptionalism is a huge positive that Obama hated deep in his core.

Stuff to consider. Donít miss this opportunityy . Cut free at the right time.
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Old 08-17-2018, 01:28 PM   #2
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Old 08-17-2018, 01:51 PM   #3
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Old 08-17-2018, 03:23 PM   #4
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According to Taco John, if you invest in the proper cryptocurrency (I believe Ripple was his favorite), you will become a millionaire.

This is how it ACTUALLY works:

Step 1: Invest a billion dollars
Step 2: Wait one year
Step 3: Congratulations, you're a millionaire!

To be fair, Ripple is outperforming some of the other cryptocurrencies. It only lost 90% of its value in the last year.

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Old 08-17-2018, 03:59 PM   #5
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I'm definitely long on Crypto. If you've invested thinking you were going to get rich quick, you thought wrong. But long term success is inevitable. There's too much value and eventually everything on the Internet will be on a blockchain.
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Old 08-17-2018, 04:26 PM   #6
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Old 08-17-2018, 05:21 PM   #7
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According to Taco John, if you invest in the proper cryptocurrency (I believe Ripple was his favorite), you will become a millionaire.

This is how it ACTUALLY works:

Step 1: Invest a billion dollars
Step 2: Wait one year
Step 3: Congratulations, you're a millionaire!

To be fair, Ripple is outperforming some of the other cryptocurrencies. It only lost 90% of its value in the last year.

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You need to get a life......seriously dude.....
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Old 08-17-2018, 06:37 PM   #8
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You need to get a life......seriously dude.....
too late...dude is way past help
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Old 08-17-2018, 06:40 PM   #9
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Trump will crack down on opioids and hes right to do so. No to pharma. Pass on the enormous supply chain volatility on manufacturing in the tariff environment. Definitely definitely pass on retail.

Surest bets are probably defense and financial services, which will benefit from reduced regulations. Assuming the benefits aren't already priced into the stock. I also wonder how much even a microscopic dent in ip could do to tech. Long game, but I'm also intrigued by big auto. Driverless isn't a matter of if, it's when. And big auto is finally investing in it.
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Old 08-17-2018, 09:32 PM   #10
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Trump will crack down on opioids and hes right to do so. No to pharma. Pass on the enormous supply chain volatility on manufacturing in the tariff environment. Definitely definitely pass on retail.

Surest bets are probably defense and financial services, which will benefit from reduced regulations. Assuming the benefits aren't already priced into the stock. I also wonder how much even a microscopic dent in ip could do to tech. Long game, but I'm also intrigued by big auto. Driverless isn't a matter of if, it's when. And big auto is finally investing in it.
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...a bunch of other quoted stuff...

That's all fair excepting the driverless business. I posted it before, but it's just not going to happen without change in the legal system.

I'm no lawyer. Let's get that out of the way, but I've been hearing about this nonsense in Ag for a long time too. AUTOMATED TRACTORS BE COMING MOTHER****ER. Right. The oldest tractor I have is a 2004 tractor with all the technology necessary to operate without my ass in the seat. And tractors have changed A LOT in 15 years.

So the issue in automated tractors lies, not in the technology, or the market, or whatever else you could think of. It's the law.

I get in a tractor with GPS and the first thing that that pops up on the screen is a message that says that the operator is responsible for collision avoidance. This is the key cog legally. If shit gets sideways, and something ****s up, it's on the driver. So take the driver out of the equation. Shit goes sideways, something ****s up, who's liable? It isn't the operator. Any decent lawyer points that squarely on the OEM. And Mother Deere doesn't play that way.

Well same thing goes for driverless cars. Someone's kid gets run over and there is going to be a lawsuit. Sure, there can be collision avoidance measures like airplanes have and some of the cars now are trying to get on the road, but that doesn't account for everything. There will be accidents because they can't be completely avoided. Without some guidance from the legal system that will pull overarching liability off the OEM's, it doesn't appear to be in the cards.
EDIT: Christ, I was responding to you in that thread. Oh well, the point still stands for others that want to read it.
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Old 08-18-2018, 07:03 AM   #11
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not any real detail as usual but still has some good points.
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Old 08-18-2018, 09:06 AM   #12
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I disagree. Here's a post I made in the Tesla thread.



EDIT: Christ, I was responding to you in that thread. Oh well, the point still stands for others that want to read it.
Fair point. Consumer adoption will take a while and it will definitely shift risk from drivers to car manufacturers. But I think car manufacturers that are ahead of the curve on EVs and ultimately driverless will get a massive investment from Uber/Lyft. And I think any transportation company has an enormous and safe opportunity to create driverless in the commercial space. And I imagine near-term they can introduce it relatively safe in the public transportation space. I also hadn't considered that EVs/driverless may dramatically cut auto service, which will be a big hit to the auto industry.

Perhaps the better play, then, is in parts. I wouldn't want to invest in oil/gas long term. I wouldn't want to invest in internal combustion engines. But batteries and vehicle technology are probably going to boom in the next decade.
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Old 08-18-2018, 07:21 PM   #13
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Fair point. Consumer adoption will take a while and it will definitely shift risk from drivers to car manufacturers. But I think car manufacturers that are ahead of the curve on EVs and ultimately driverless will get a massive investment from Uber/Lyft. And I think any transportation company has an enormous and safe opportunity to create driverless in the commercial space. And I imagine near-term they can introduce it relatively safe in the public transportation space. I also hadn't considered that EVs/driverless may dramatically cut auto service, which will be a big hit to the auto industry.

Perhaps the better play, then, is in parts. I wouldn't want to invest in oil/gas long term. I wouldn't want to invest in internal combustion engines. But batteries and vehicle technology are probably going to boom in the next decade.
Right. But all that doesnít address the issue of liability. Until that gets hammered out driverless wonít happen. Just as it hasnít happened in ag.
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According to Taco John, if you invest in the proper cryptocurrency (I believe Ripple was his favorite), you will become a millionaire.

This is how it ACTUALLY works:

Step 1: Invest a billion dollars
Step 2: Wait one year
Step 3: Congratulations, you're a millionaire!

To be fair, Ripple is outperforming some of the other cryptocurrencies. It only lost 90% of its value in the last year.

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Yes, I read on CP that cryptocurrencies are the way to get rich.

If it goes up, buy more. It's obviously taking off and you need to get as much money in as possible now.

If it goes down, buy more. It's temporarily a bargain and you need to get more money out there.
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Old 08-19-2018, 04:50 AM   #15
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The china srock market is down about 22% right now. There are some plays out there that can make you some money when this trade war blows over but you'll need to time it correctly. It could end tomorrow or 2 years from now.
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