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Old 04-06-2020, 01:46 PM  
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Kelce, Berry Named to 2010s All-Decade Team by Pro Football HoF

EDIT: Tyreek and Mathieu were also named. I clicked too soon.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/p...nine-patriots/

Here are the 53 selections to the 2010s All-Decade Team:
Offense

WR – Antonio Brown, Larry Fitzgerald, Calvin Johnson, Julio Jones
TE – Rob Gronkowski, Travis Kelce
TJason Peters, Tyron Smith, Joe Staley, Joe Thomas
GJahri Evans, Logan Mankins, Zack Martin, Marshal Yanda
CAlex Mack, Maurkice Pouncey
QB – Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers
RBFrank Gore, Marshawn Lynch, LeSean McCoy, Adrian Peterson
Flex – Darren Sproles
Defense

DECalais Campbell, Cameron Jordan, Julius Peppers, J.J. Watt
DTGeno Atkins, Fletcher Cox, Aaron Donald, Ndamukong Suh
LB – Chandler Jones, Luke Kuechly, Khalil Mack, Von Miller, Bobby Wagner, Patrick Willis
CBPatrick Peterson, Darrelle Revis, Richard Sherman
S Eric Berry, Earl Thomas, Eric Weddle
DBChris Harris, Tyrann Mathieu
Special Teams

PJohnny Hekker, Shane Lechler
K – Stephen Gostkowski, Justin Tucker
PRTyreek Hill, Darren Sproles
KRDevin Hester, Cordarrelle Patterson
Coaches

Bill Belichick, Pete Carroll
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Old 04-06-2020, 03:47 PM   #31
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McCoy over Charles?
I don't like it either but I can understand it. McCoy's run lasted from 2010-2017 while Charles was 2010-2015. Injuries and not being able to use that 2009 season really hurts Charles' case.

I also understand why people would choose Marshawn Lynch with the postseason success and signature runs.

.. But Frank Gore over Jamaal Charles? I'm sorry but no. Matt Forte or Jamaal Charles should have been given a spot over Gore.
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Old 04-06-2020, 04:03 PM   #32
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I don't like it either but I can understand it. McCoy's run lasted from 2010-2017 while Charles was 2010-2015. Injuries and not being able to use that 2009 season really hurts Charles' case.

I also understand why people would choose Marshawn Lynch with the postseason success and signature runs.

.. But Frank Gore over Jamaal Charles? I'm sorry but no. Matt Forte or Jamaal Charles should have been given a spot over Gore.
Um you see Gores stats? Longevity is key here. Itís about all of the 2010s not just a couple good years
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Old 04-06-2020, 04:04 PM   #33
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I don't like it either but I can understand it. McCoy's run lasted from 2010-2017 while Charles was 2010-2015. Injuries and not being able to use that 2009 season really hurts Charles' case.

I also understand why people would choose Marshawn Lynch with the postseason success and signature runs.

.. But Frank Gore over Jamaal Charles? I'm sorry but no. Matt Forte or Jamaal Charles should have been given a spot over Gore.
Gore was a good back, but never truly spectacular. Well 1 spectacular season. But hes kinda like another Curtis Martin. Just was always consistent.
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Old 04-06-2020, 04:12 PM   #34
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Old 04-06-2020, 04:47 PM   #35
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Um you see Gores stats? Longevity is key here. Itís about all of the 2010s not just a couple good years
It's definitely a longevity vs efficiency/peak argument, but look at this graph. Peterson is a no-brainer, McCoy led the decade in yards from scrimmage, and Lynch takes the decade's lead in postseason rushing stats so they all make sense.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...reTool#results

Out of 48 qualified rushers, Frank Gore was #4 in rushing yards. Very nice, very cool. Except he was #1 in carries, good for #37 in YPC. Ouch.

Frank Gore scored a TD every 45th touch on average. Jamaal Charles scored a TD every 25th touch.

Jamaal Charles>>>>>>>Frank Gore
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Old 04-06-2020, 05:33 PM   #36
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Berry? He should be on the all injured team and over paid team. Did he even play 5 of the 10?
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Old 04-06-2020, 05:34 PM   #37
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I looked. 5 exactly with out missing a whole bunch of games.
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Old 04-06-2020, 06:04 PM   #38
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Further goes to show how important a HC/QB combination is. 3 guys with hall of fame level talent on one line...aaannnnnddd they ****ing suck.
Roaf, Waters, Wiegmann, Shields, Tait..... Screwed over by one of the most inept defenses in the history of the NFL...
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Old 04-06-2020, 06:07 PM   #39
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I looked. 5 exactly with out missing a whole bunch of games.
Which means Charles deserves to be on the list.
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Old 04-06-2020, 06:09 PM   #40
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Old 04-06-2020, 06:22 PM   #41
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Roaf, Waters, Wiegmann, Shields, Tait..... Screwed over by one of the most inept defenses in the history of the NFL...
Please donít remind me. Horrible team management there.

Elite level OL and running game. Atrocious defense.

Draft all defense. Miss on pretty much every pick. Let the offense get old and expensive. Then proceed to ignore QB once your decent QB gets his head spiked by Cincy. Talk about doing everything wrong.
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Old 04-07-2020, 09:39 AM   #43
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When the AFL merged with the NFL that was it. When the All Time AFL team was announced the Chiefs Fred Arbansas was the TE. If we never played another football season Chiefs TE Tony Gonzalez would be the All Time TE.

Point...Chiefs have had some TE's
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It's definitely a longevity vs efficiency/peak argument, but look at this graph. Peterson is a no-brainer, McCoy led the decade in yards from scrimmage, and Lynch takes the decade's lead in postseason rushing stats so they all make sense.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...reTool#results

Out of 48 qualified rushers, Frank Gore was #4 in rushing yards. Very nice, very cool. Except he was #1 in carries, good for #37 in YPC. Ouch.

Frank Gore scored a TD every 45th touch on average. Jamaal Charles scored a TD every 25th touch.

Jamaal Charles>>>>>>>Frank Gore
Better player vs. better career is a hard argument to have, though.

Was Charles better at his apex? Absolutely. But did Charles do more for his teams in his 90 games and 1100 carries than Frank Gore did for his over 150 games and 2400 carries?

Pretty tough to make that argument, isn't it?

Yeah, Charles was a better player, but I don't think that's how you name guys to teams like this. You do that based on total productivity over the defined time period.

Half the battle is showing up and ultimately, Gore showed up. In a game of attrition like football, that's a wildly underrated part of it (and why I don't think Charles is a HoFer or that Davis deserved any meaningful consideration either). Over the course of the decade, Gore simply did more than Charles did.
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Old 04-07-2020, 10:17 AM   #45
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Better player vs. better career is a hard argument to have, though.

Was Charles better at his apex? Absolutely. But did Charles do more for his teams in his 90 games and 1100 carries than Frank Gore did for his over 150 games and 2400 carries?

Pretty tough to make that argument, isn't it?

Yeah, Charles was a better player, but I don't think that's how you name guys to teams like this. You do that based on total productivity over the defined time period.

Half the battle is showing up and ultimately, Gore showed up. In a game of attrition like football, that's a wildly underrated part of it (and why I don't think Charles is a HoFer or that Davis deserved any meaningful consideration either). Over the course of the decade, Gore simply did more than Charles did.
Honestly, I'd rather have 10 games of Jamaal Charles and 6 of some scrub free agent than 16 of the 2010s version of Frank Gore.

In either case, I understand that most wouldn't agree given Charles lack of longevity and volume, but what's the argument for Gore over Matt Forte?
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