2016 NFL Draft: Safeties

kccrow · 01-28-2016, 09:05 PM

Post your scouting reports and thoughts on safeties/tweeners (SS/OLB Hybrids and FS/CB Hybrids) here.

CleveSteve · 02-10-2016, 10:25 AM

This guy has been the best player on the Houston defense for the past three years, going back to picking off Bortles on the goal line vs. UCF in 2013. He has started for Houston at corner (where he was recruited), free safety, and nickel. It seems like they let him roam around and make plays because his instincts are off the charts. He's small but he is a very sure tackler. I've seen him make one bad play in the 8-10 Houston games I've watched over the past three years, and he came back and made one of the most athletic INT's I've ever seen later that same game (last year vs. BYU.) This year, when Houston was down big against Memphis in the 4th quarter, he made a huge play on a toss where he read the play off the snap, knifed into the backfield from his safety position and was on the RB by the time the ball got to him, causing a fumble which Houston recovered. They were down two scores in the 4th quarter at this point (IIRC... might have been late 3rd quarter) and they came back to win, preserving their undefeated season at the time. I kinda hate even mentioning him here because he is the one player that if my Browns don't draft I feel like he will be the one that got away.

Urc Burry · 03-14-2016, 08:59 AM

Damn just came here to post about Karl Joseph... WVU's other safety

Louis Riddick had this to say

Karl Joseph best overall DB in draft..versatile,competitive, run support, blitz, tackle, zone pattern recognition, man skills, ball skills.

If this kid didn't get hurt, he would/should be being talked about as one of best defensive players in draft. Could watch his tape all day.

Ramsey a bigger better athlete, not a better football player.

staylor26 · 03-14-2016, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urc Burry

Damn just came here to post about Karl Joseph... WVU's other safety

Louis Riddick had this to say

Karl Joseph best overall DB in draft..versatile,competitive, run support, blitz, tackle, zone pattern recognition, man skills, ball skills.

If this kid didn't get hurt, he would/should be being talked about as one of best defensive players in draft. Could watch his tape all day.

Ramsey a bigger better athlete, not a better football player.

Karl Joseph is one of my favorite prospects in this years draft.

If we're truly looking at BPA at 28, he has to be in play.

Urc Burry · 03-14-2016, 09:51 AM

Yeah I'm not sure where he's projected to go, but I'm definitely a fan. He reminds me of Tyrann Mathieu a bit. Extremely versatile, and plays way bigger than his size

O.city · 03-14-2016, 10:39 AM

You know what, Joseph makes alot of sense.

He can be the third safety right away, is very versatile a d can probably be a nickel cb as well.

Seems to check alot of boxes

RunKC · 03-14-2016, 10:48 AM

No love for DeAndre Houston-Carson? Tall guy with solid speed who was a man CB before going to safety. Very good production, ball skills and football IQ.

Urc Burry · 03-14-2016, 10:49 AM

I'll admit.. I didn't know a lot about him before the Riddick tweets.. But I already may be sold on him. The dude is a stud

Urc Burry · 04-01-2016, 07:43 AM

That's why I was pimping Joseph so hard. He's my favorite in the class, and I think he could play deep, box, and in the slot. He's a game changer and I'm all for it as long as his medical checks out. I would prefer corner, but if Jackson, Alexander, and Apple are all gone then I'd be all for it

staylor26 · 04-01-2016, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urc Burry

I'll admit.. I didn't know a lot about him before the Riddick tweets.. But I already may be sold on him. The dude is a stud

My favorite prospect in the draft this year. Hope he's on Dorsey's short list at 28.

smith11 · 04-02-2016, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26

My favorite prospect in the draft this year. Hope he's on Dorsey's short list at 28.

do you downgrade him at all for concussion risk...great looking player but looks like he leads with his head alot

Chief Northman · 04-03-2016, 04:28 PM

I think this safety class has been overshadowed by the strength at DL and corner. Even though there may not be blue chippers outside of Ramsey, there is much quality available at the position. Given league trends to see multiple safeties employed in defensive sub-packaging, there is no doubt many young prospects can have meaningful impact to defensive schemes around the league.

Just because the Chiefs picked up two safeties in FA recently doesn't mean they will ignore the position come the draft. There are good prospects available and hopefully a steal or bargain of a pick comes KC's way as a result of the position being overlooked...

Chiefshrink · 04-03-2016, 07:45 PM

Definitely a thumper for sure and will take on anybody.

01-28-2016, 09:05 PM
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02-10-2016, 10:25 AM	#2
CleveSteve Veteran Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Pflugerville, TX Casino cash: $10010636	Trevon Stewart, Houston This guy has been the best player on the Houston defense for the past three years, going back to picking off Bortles on the goal line vs. UCF in 2013. He has started for Houston at corner (where he was recruited), free safety, and nickel. It seems like they let him roam around and make plays because his instincts are off the charts. He's small but he is a very sure tackler. I've seen him make one bad play in the 8-10 Houston games I've watched over the past three years, and he came back and made one of the most athletic INT's I've ever seen later that same game (last year vs. BYU.) This year, when Houston was down big against Memphis in the 4th quarter, he made a huge play on a toss where he read the play off the snap, knifed into the backfield from his safety position and was on the RB by the time the ball got to him, causing a fumble which Houston recovered. They were down two scores in the 4th quarter at this point (IIRC... might have been late 3rd quarter) and they came back to win, preserving their undefeated season at the time. I kinda hate even mentioning him here because he is the one player that if my Browns don't draft I feel like he will be the one that got away.
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03-14-2016, 08:59 AM	#3
Urc Burry Veteran Join Date: Jan 2011 Casino cash: $9041048	Damn just came here to post about Karl Joseph... WVU's other safety Louis Riddick had this to say Karl Joseph best overall DB in draft..versatile,competitive, run support, blitz, tackle, zone pattern recognition, man skills, ball skills. If this kid didn't get hurt, he would/should be being talked about as one of best defensive players in draft. Could watch his tape all day. Ramsey a bigger better athlete, not a better football player.
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03-14-2016, 09:51 AM	#5
Urc Burry Veteran Join Date: Jan 2011 Casino cash: $9041048	Yeah I'm not sure where he's projected to go, but I'm definitely a fan. He reminds me of Tyrann Mathieu a bit. Extremely versatile, and plays way bigger than his size
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03-14-2016, 10:39 AM	#6
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2864064	You know what, Joseph makes alot of sense. He can be the third safety right away, is very versatile a d can probably be a nickel cb as well. Seems to check alot of boxes
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03-14-2016, 10:48 AM	#7
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $2369611	No love for DeAndre Houston-Carson? Tall guy with solid speed who was a man CB before going to safety. Very good production, ball skills and football IQ.
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03-14-2016, 10:49 AM	#8
Urc Burry Veteran Join Date: Jan 2011 Casino cash: $9041048	I'll admit.. I didn't know a lot about him before the Riddick tweets.. But I already may be sold on him. The dude is a stud
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04-01-2016, 07:43 AM	#9
Urc Burry Veteran Join Date: Jan 2011 Casino cash: $9041048	That's why I was pimping Joseph so hard. He's my favorite in the class, and I think he could play deep, box, and in the slot. He's a game changer and I'm all for it as long as his medical checks out. I would prefer corner, but if Jackson, Alexander, and Apple are all gone then I'd be all for it
Posts: 2,446

04-03-2016, 04:28 PM	#12
Chief Northman MVP Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Canada Casino cash: $6900890	I think this safety class has been overshadowed by the strength at DL and corner. Even though there may not be blue chippers outside of Ramsey, there is much quality available at the position. Given league trends to see multiple safeties employed in defensive sub-packaging, there is no doubt many young prospects can have meaningful impact to defensive schemes around the league. Just because the Chiefs picked up two safeties in FA recently doesn't mean they will ignore the position come the draft. There are good prospects available and hopefully a steal or bargain of a pick comes KC's way as a result of the position being overlooked...
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