Chiefs Andy's Presser and Play calling

tooge · 11-20-2018, 08:04 AM

Great game. I'm very encouraged moving forward with this team. Lost on the road, by 3 pts, to one of the best offenses in the league. And, had a chance to end it with a dropped INT and a drive with 1:50 to go. I'll take it.

However, Andy Reid mentioned he could've called better plays in the game, and I couldn't agree more. Particularly on the second from last drive. Chiefs get the ball back with 1:50 to go, down by 3 and all 3 timeouts, Rams have none. They get the ball to the 45 ish with a pass to Tyreek with about 1:20 left if I remember correctly, and still 3 timeouts and the clock stopped. They need maybe 20 yards to be in FG range, but obviously want a TD for the win.

Next play is the play where Mahomes is hit as he throws and it's picked by Peters. When the strength of the defense is the D line and it's rush, why not use the screen, draw, WR screens, bubbles, etc to work down the field instead of having Mahomes drop back with nothing but slow developing plays? I'm guessing that's what Andy is talking about. I know, you can second guess anything, but I was watching and thinking, don't try to get it all right here. Next play, game over. Frustrating. I'd think having Hunt in the mix at the end, with high percentage passes would have been the way to go rather than 5-7 step drop plays. Anyhow, great game. Chiefs gonna end up 14-2 with HVA throughout.

Red Dawg · 11-20-2018, 08:10 AM

Mahomes could have jetted to his right behind Kelce and ran like 20 yards and out of bounds. These are things he will learn with experience but Andys plays were jot good. Bad series.

**petegz28** · 11-20-2018, 08:15 AM

Only the 2nd team in history to score more than 40+ twice and lose. Bob Sutton's resume is one for the record books.

kcpasco · 11-20-2018, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Only the 2nd team in history to score more than 40+ twice and lose. Bob Sutton's resume is one for the record books.

2 awesome playoff collapses and now this. Andy loves him though.

Red Dawg · 11-20-2018, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Only the 2nd team in history to score more than 40+ twice and lose. Bob Sutton's resume is one for the record books.

Pretty ridiculous he keeps his job. Secondary has poor technical skills.

old_geezer · 11-20-2018, 08:31 AM

Our defense is absolutely horrible; hard to argue against that. Having said that I don't blame last night's loss on the defense. Five turnovers by the offense was the deciding factor. Great game and effort IMO.

Eleazar · 11-20-2018, 08:31 AM

Reid's play calling has improved a lot this year. Obviously, a lot of that has to do with a great quarterback being able to make plays and thus make the play call look good, but to Reid's credit he has abandoned the sideways offense and he has been somewhat better about not going ultra-conservative when we have a lead.

Nothing to complain about last night with respect to play calling.

**Shogun** · 11-20-2018, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Only the 2nd team in history to score more than 40+ twice and lose. Bob Sutton's resume is one for the record books.

Agreed. But 21 of those points werent his defenses fault.

chiefzilla1501 · 11-20-2018, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar

Reid's play calling has improved a lot this year. Obviously, a lot of that has to do with a great quarterback being able to make plays and thus make the play call look good, but to Reid's credit he has abandoned the sideways offense and he has been somewhat better about not going ultra-conservative when we have a lead.

Nothing to complain about last night with respect to play calling.

I absolutely hated the last drive playcalling. Less than a minute and we throw several designed short throws to kelce straight up the middle.

**buddha** · 11-20-2018, 08:38 AM

�� Of the complaints related to Mahomes go to the patchwork offensive line. The Rams pass rush is better than our pass pro. The Chiefs are at least even with the Rams when we ran the ball... Andy needed to stick with the running game.

**petegz28** · 11-20-2018, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Shogun

Agreed. But 21 14 of those points werent his defenses fault.

fyp???

Marcellus · 11-20-2018, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

fyp???

21

**Dartgod** · 11-20-2018, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar

Reid's play calling has improved a lot this year. Obviously, a lot of that has to do with a great quarterback being able to make plays and thus make the play call look good, but to Reid's credit he has abandoned the sideways offense and he has been somewhat better about not going ultra-conservative when we have a lead.

Nothing to complain about last night with respect to play calling.

His play calling after we had 1st and goal at the 8 (1st possession in the 2nd Qtr) was terrible. Back to back options plays possibly cost us 4 points and nearly got Mahomes killed.

siberian khatru · 11-20-2018, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

His play calling after we had 1st and goal at the 8 (1st possession in the 2nd Qtr) was terrible. Back to back options plays possibly cost us 4 points and nearly got Mahomes killed.

I'd have to go back and check, but I thought the first one was an audible by Mahomes. Did anyone else think that?

Buckweath · 11-20-2018, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I absolutely hated the last drive playcalling. Less than a minute and we throw several designed short throws to kelce straight up the middle.

Same here. It started with a bad decision by Hill to return the ball on the punt. Sure, he wants to make a play and he is a great returner but the best thing to do is to let the ball go into the endzone to leave as much time as possible on the clock as well as to make sure that you have a decent field position.

Then, the short throw playcalling to me were just another proof that Reid is clueless when it comes to clock management. I could be wrong though but if that is Reid calling short throw stuff, that's just bad.

11-20-2018, 08:04 AM
tooge MVP Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Liberty, MO Casino cash: $3974112	Andy's Presser and Play calling Great game. I'm very encouraged moving forward with this team. Lost on the road, by 3 pts, to one of the best offenses in the league. And, had a chance to end it with a dropped INT and a drive with 1:50 to go. I'll take it. However, Andy Reid mentioned he could've called better plays in the game, and I couldn't agree more. Particularly on the second from last drive. Chiefs get the ball back with 1:50 to go, down by 3 and all 3 timeouts, Rams have none. They get the ball to the 45 ish with a pass to Tyreek with about 1:20 left if I remember correctly, and still 3 timeouts and the clock stopped. They need maybe 20 yards to be in FG range, but obviously want a TD for the win. Next play is the play where Mahomes is hit as he throws and it's picked by Peters. When the strength of the defense is the D line and it's rush, why not use the screen, draw, WR screens, bubbles, etc to work down the field instead of having Mahomes drop back with nothing but slow developing plays? I'm guessing that's what Andy is talking about. I know, you can second guess anything, but I was watching and thinking, don't try to get it all right here. Next play, game over. Frustrating. I'd think having Hunt in the mix at the end, with high percentage passes would have been the way to go rather than 5-7 step drop plays. Anyhow, great game. Chiefs gonna end up 14-2 with HVA throughout.
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Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	Reid's play calling has improved a lot this year. Obviously, a lot of that has to do with a great quarterback being able to make plays and thus make the play call look good, but to Reid's credit he has abandoned the sideways offense and he has been somewhat better about not going ultra-conservative when we have a lead. Nothing to complain about last night with respect to play calling.
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buddha You may think you know... Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: California Casino cash: $10006184	�� Of the complaints related to Mahomes go to the patchwork offensive line. The Rams pass rush is better than our pass pro. The Chiefs are at least even with the Rams when we ran the ball... Andy needed to stick with the running game.
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