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Old 09-03-2016, 06:30 AM  
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Just Felt An Earthquake At My House

Anybody else have their house shake? Holy hell, that was a little unsettling.

5.8 on the scale. Epicenter near OKC
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Old 09-03-2016, 10:45 AM   #46
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This is the largest earthquake in Oklahoma since the increase in seismic activity in the state related to the deep injection of oil production wastes. While, it may be impossible to know with certainty that this quake was caused by underground waste disposal, the claim that such quakes are limited to small magnitudes just became less tenable.
Especially since it appears the quake originated from a fissure far away from any plate edge. Something just sort of broke it appears...
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Old 09-03-2016, 10:47 AM   #47
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These aren't being caused by fracking.
Care to explain how you can be so sure?
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Old 09-03-2016, 10:47 AM   #48
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Was having a conversation last night about how there hasn't really been a big earthquake out here for some time. Last one I felt was a 4.0 or 5.0 or something centered in Encino and that was 2014.
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Old 09-03-2016, 10:50 AM   #49
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Care to explain how you can be so sure?
These quakes correlate to wasterwater injection, not fracking. The evidence is quite clear.
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These quakes correlate to wasterwater injection, not fracking. The evidence is quite clear.
So the waste product of the fracking process?
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Old 09-03-2016, 10:56 AM   #51
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So the waste product of the fracking process?
My understanding is that in Oklahoma, the vast majority of wastewater injection comes from normal O&G drilling, not fracking. Wastewater is present in virtually all O&G drilling sites.
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Ah yes, God spoke through the earth this a.m. reminding all of us of our mortality and only He can save us through His infinite love of His Son who died on the cross for our finite sinful state.
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Anybody else have their house shake? Holy hell, that was a little unsettling.

5.8 on the scale. Epicenter near OKC
God get your attention this a.m. did he?

Btw, there is no such place as a "holy hell".
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Jesus and earthquakes.

You see we have been "In The Last Days" since man fell from grace and even more so since Jesus's resurrection. Scripture states that a day is like a thousand years to the Lord. So when Jesus said to his disciples I will return very soon after my death and resurrection, it makes perfect sense. Man in his sinful finite state, a thousand years seems like forever. But for God(perfect infinite state) it is a blink of an eye or there is no reference for time, however Jesus uses a reference of time for us because we are in a finite sinful state of being.
So "very soon" to God would be just days from His perspective not ours.


Man's sin destroyed the utopian state of this earth effecting/infecting everything from A to Z of our existence here on earth(physical,mental and emotional) and why there have been earthquakes from the very beginning until now. Earthquakes show the imperfectness due to man's sin and they are also are used at times by God to communicate to man and we see this many times in scripture. Are there more today than in Biblical times ? Don't know but I doubt it. There are the same amount going on today as back then is my guess. God through His grace bestowed upon man, His knowledge for us to discover technology(about many things which is very Biblical when discussing 'man's knowledge increasing in the last days') that can actually record all the earthquakes going on everyday throughout the world.

Man in his finite state has no more power over the earth's climate than he does supposedly causing earthquakes by "fracking for oil" or "wastewater injection". However, there is this popular notion among some Bible prophecy teachers that "earthquakes" will increase in number the closer it gets to Jesus's return. Simply not true. There is no scriptural evidence for this whatsoever but Jesus does talk about earthquakes right before His return.


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Signs of the End of the Age

3 While Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will all this happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming and of the end of the age?”

4 Jesus answered, “See to it that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in My name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. 6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. These things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.

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(Mark 13:10-13; Luke 21:10-19)

9 Then will they hand you over to be persecuted and killed, and you will be hated by all nations on account of My name. 10 At that time many will fall away and will betray and hate one another, 11 and many false prophets will arise and mislead many.

12 Because of the multiplication of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold.

13 But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved.

14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

The Abomination of Desolation
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15 So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination of desolation,’a described by the prophet Daniel (let the reader understand), 16 then let those in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let no one on the housetop come down to retrieve anything from his house. 18 And let no one in the field return for his cloak.

19 How miserable those days will be for pregnant and nursing mothers! 20 Pray that your flight will not occur in the winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For at that time there will be great tribulation, unmatched from the beginning of the world until now, and never to be seen again. 22 If those days had not been cut short, nobody would be saved. But for the sake of the elect, those days will be shortened.

23 At that time, if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There He is,’ do not believe it. 24 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders that would deceive even the elect, if that were possible. 25 See, I have told you in advance.

The Return of the Son of Man
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26 So if they tell you, ‘There He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days:

‘The sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.’b

30 At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.c 31And He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

The Lesson of the Fig Tree
(Mark 13:28-31; Luke 21:29-33)

32 Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its branches become tender and sprout leaves, you know that summer is near. 33 So also, when you see all these things, you know that He is near, right at the door. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will never pass away.

Readiness at Any Hour
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36 No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so will it be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark. 39 And they were oblivious, until the flood came and swept them all away. So will be the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left.

42 Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day on which your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known in which watch of the night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 For this reason, you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect Him.

45 Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of his household, to give the others their food at the proper time? 46 Blessed is that servant whose master returns and finds him doing his job. 47 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions.

48 But suppose that servant is wicked and says in his heart, ‘My master will be away a long time.’ 49 And he begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50 The master of that servant will come on a day he does not anticipate and at an hour he does not expect. 51 Then he will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.


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I was about half awake laying in bed. First thought "why da fuq is my wife bouncing on the bed?" then realized whole house was shaking.
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Old 09-03-2016, 01:28 PM   #57
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Actually, yes. California has strict earthquake codes and has done a lot of retro-fitting on older structures in the last ten years.

When the New Madrid fault in southern Missouri next goes, there could be a lot of people in a world of hurt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Ma...thquake_series

According to the USGS, there is a broad consensus that the possibility of major earthquakes in the New Madrid Seismic Zone remains a concern, and that the GPS data do not provide a compelling case for lessening perceived earthquake hazards in the region. One concern is that there is no evidence of reduced earthquake frequency over time, as would be expected if all present-day activity were caused by aftershocks of the 1811–1812 events; another is that the 4,500-year archaeological record of large earthquakes in the region is more significant than ten years of direct strain measurement.

The USGS recently issued a fact sheet reiterating the estimate of a 10% chance of a New Madrid earthquake of magnitude comparable to those of 1811–1812

[magnitude ~7.4 – 8.6 duration of 10–12 minutes This event shook windows and furniture in Washington, D.C., rang bells in Richmond, Virginia, sloshed well water and shook houses in Charleston, South Carolina, and knocked plaster off of houses in Columbia, South Carolina. In Jefferson, Indiana, furniture moved]

within the next 50 years, and a greater chance of a magnitude 6.0 earthquake in the same time frame.


There is no way buildings in KC and St Louis are designed for that. There are also chemical plants along the Mississippi that could also cause huge additional problems.

One of the issues is that the bedrock in the area is less fractured so the shaking from the earthquake carries much further than it does, in say, California.

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My dad and I missed it by a couple minutes. We just put the boat in the water a couple minutes before it happened. We were at Sooner lake, which is very close to the epicenter near Pawnee, OK.
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My dad and I missed it by a couple minutes. We just put the boat in the water a couple minutes before it happened. We were at Sooner lake, which is very close to the epicenter near Pawnee, OK.
A buddy of mine lived about 10 miles from the Loma Prieta earthquake (the '89 SF quake). He was out on a boat when it happened and had no idea. His house was wrecked, his dog was killed by something falling on it, and he was pissed that he didn't even get to experience what it was like.
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