Chiefs Chiefsplanet GMs vs. Dorsey's Predecessor - Page 2

**Rain Man** · 04-07-2013, 09:50 PM

So a few of us have been playing a game for several years now in the casino forum, where we've pitted ourselves in the draft against the Chiefs' GM. In a coincidence, we started playing the same year that Dorsey's predecessor took over the Chiefs, so we have an interesting comparison.

The rules have been strict. We have to complete our draft before training camp starts, and we have to cut our rosters to 53 by game day. We lose free agents as they leave, and we can only add free agents who join the Chiefs. We can accept or reject trades by the Chiefs if they involve players who are on our own roster. So the bottom line is that the draft is our main variable.

Three people have been playing for all four years, and I present their rosters below. In the accompanying poll, please report whether you think they have drafted better or worse than Dorsey's predecessor, so they can adjust their self-esteem accordingly.

Team A

QB
Matt Cassel
Brady Quinn
Ricky Stanzi

RB
Jamaal Charles
Bernard Pierce (Ravens) – 532 yards rushing for the Ravens this year, 4.9 ypc, 1 TD, 47 yards receiving
Shaun Draughn
Cyrus Gray
Nate Eachus

FB
Peyton Hillis

WR
Dwayne Bowe
Jonathan Baldwin
Dexter McCluster
David Reed (Ravens) – 5 reception for the Ravens this year
Steve Breaston

TE
Kevin Boss
Steve Maneri
Julius Thomas (Broncos) – Appeared in 4 games for the Broncos

OT
Branden Albert
Eric Winston
Nate Potter (Cardinals) – 6 starts at LT for the Cardinals

G
Jon Asamoah
Kraig Urbik (Bills) – 13 starts for the Bills
Ryan Lilja
David DeCastro (Steelers) – No game appearances
C
Matt Tennant (Patriots) – Appeared in 8 games for the Eagles
Rodney Hudson

K
Ryan Succop

P
Dustin Colquitt

FS
Kendrick Lewis
Abram Elam

SS
Eric Berry

CB
Brandon Flowers
Alterraun Verner (Titans) – 16 starts, 59 tackles,2 int, 1FF for the Titans
Johnny Patrick (Saints) – 1 start and 15 game appearances for the Saints
Stanford Routt
DeQuan Menzie

OLB
Justin Houston
Tamba Hali
Andy Studebaker
Justin Cole (Rams) – Appeared in 16 games for the Rams

ILB
Derrick Johnson
Sean Lee (Cowboys) – 6 starts for the Cowboys this year, 36 tackles 1 int, 1 FF
Demorrio Williams (Chargers) – 3 starts and 14 game appearances for the Chargers, 34 tackles, 2 int,1 FF
Brandon Siler
Eric Bakhtiari (free agent) – Appeared in 4 games for the 49ers

DE
Glenn Dorsey
Tyson Jackson
Kendall Reyes (Chargers) – 4 starts and 16 appearances for the Chargers, 17 tackles, 5.5 sacks
Karl Klug (Titans) – 1 start and 15 game appearances for the Titans, 4 tackles, 3.5 sacks
Wallace Gilberry – Appeared in 14 games for the Bengals, 15 tackles, 6.5 sacks, 1FF

NT
Anthony Toribio
Jerrell Powe
Alameda Ta'amu (Steelers) – No game appearances

Team B

QB
Mark Sanchez (Jets) – 15 starts for the Jets, 2883 yards, 13 TDs, 18 Ints, 66.9 QB rating
Brady Quinn
Brock Osweiler (Broncos) – Appeared in 5 games for the Broncos, 12 yards passing
Ricky Stanzi

RB
Jamaal Charles
Peyton Hillis
Shaun Draughn
Nate Eachus

WR
Dwayne Bowe
Jonathan Baldwin
Rishard Matthews (Dolphins) – 1 start and 8 appearances for the Dolphins, 11 receptions
Dezmon Briscoe (Redskins) – Appeared in 6 games for the Redskins, 2 receptions
Steve Breaston
B.J. Cunningham (Eagles) – No game appearances

TE
Kevin Boss
Chase Coffman (Falcons) – Appeared in 5 games for the Falcons, 1 reception
Jake O'Connell

OT
Branden Albert
Eric Winston
Donald Stephenson
Selvish Capers (Giants) – Appeared in 3 games for the Giants

G
Lilja, Ryan
Jon Asamoah
David DeCastro (Steelers) – No game appearances

C
Rodney Hudson

K
Ryan Succop

P
Dustin Colquitt

FS
Abram Elam
Geroge Iloka (Bengals) – Appeared in 7 games for the Bengals

SS
Eric Berry
Tysyn Hartman

CB
Brandon Flowers
Perrish Cox (49ers) – Appeared in 16 games for the 49ers, 11 tackles
Jalil Brown
Stanford Routt

OLB
Tamba Hali
Justin Houston
Edgar Jones
Ricky Sapp (Jets) – Appeared in 3 games for the Jets
Sergio Kindle (Ravens) – Appeared in 1 game for the Ravens

ILB
Derrick Johnson
Vontaze Burflict (Bengals) – 14 starts and 16 appearances for the Bengals, 73 tackles, 1 sack
Jovan Belcher

DE
Glenn Dorsey
Ropati Pitoitua
Allen Bailey

NT
Cam Thomas (Chargers) – 3 starts and 15 appearances for the Ravens, 14 tackles
Terrence Cody (Ravens) – 3 starts and 15 appearances for the Ravens, 12 tackles
Jerrell Powe
Alameda Ta'amu (Steelers) – No game appearances

Team C

QB
Russell Wilson (Seahawks) – 16 starts for the Seahawks, 3,118 yards, 26 TDs, 10 Ints, 100.0 QB Rating
Mark Sanchez (Jets) – 15 starts for the Jets, 2883 yards, 13 TDs, 18 Ints, 66.9 QB rating
Jimmy Clausen (Panthers) – No game appearances

HB
Jamaal Charles
C.J. Spiller. (Bills) 7 starts and 16 appearances for the Bills, 1244 yards rushing, 6.0 ypc, 6 TD, 459 yards receiving
Shaun Draughn
Nate Eachus

FB
Peyton Hillis

WR
Dwayne Bowe
Kendall Wright (Titans) – 5 starts and 15 appearances for the Titans, 64 receptions, 626 yards, 4 TD
Leonard Hankerson (Redskins) - 5 starts and 16 appearances for the Redskins, 38 receptions, 543 yards, 3 TD
Steve Breaston - WR
Greg Salas (Rams) – 1 appearance for the Patriots

TE
Tony Gonzalez (Falcons) – 15 starts and 16 appearances for the Falcons, 93 receptions, 930 yards, 8 TD
Kevin Boss - TE
Steve Maneri - TE

OT
Branden Albert
Eric Winston - RT
Bruce Campbell (Raiders) - Appeared in 5 games for the Panthers

G
Wade Smith - 15 starts and 15 appearances for the Texans
Alex Boone (49ers) – 16 starts for the 49ers
Lilja, Ryan
Jason Pinkston (Browns) – 6 starts and 6 appearances for the Browns
Brian Waters - No game appearances
C
Rodney Hudson (Chiefs)

K
Alex Henery (Eagles) – 27 of 31 FG, 25 of 26 EP, 106 points

P
Dustin Colquitt

FS
Kendrick Lewis
Charles Mitchell (Falcons) – Appeared in 9 games for the Falcons
Travis Daniels

SS
Reshad Jones (Dolphins) – 16 starts for the Dolphins, 74 tackles, 4 int, 1 sack, 2 FF
Abram Elam
Tysyn Hartman - DB

CB
Brandon Flowers
Alphonso Dennard (Patriots) – 6 starts and 10 appearances for the Patriots, 34 tackles, 3 int, 1 FF
D.J. Moore (Bears) – 2 starts and 13 appearances for the Patriots, 25 tackles, 2 int
Stanford Routt - CB

OLB
Tamba Hali
Zach Brown (Titans) – 12 starts and 16 appearances for the Titans, 68 tackles, 5.5 sacks, 3 int, 1 FF
Chris Carter (Steelers) – 3 starts and 8 appearances for the Steelers, 2 tackles
Dekoda Watson (Buccaneers) – 16 appearances for the Buccaneers, 3 tackles
Andy Studebaker

ILB
Derrick Johnson
Rey Maualuga (Bengals) – 16 starts for the Bengals, 62 tackles, 1 sack
Brandon Siler - ILB

DE
Glenn Dorsey
Ropati Pitoitua
Da'Quan Bowers (Buccaneers) – Appeared in 10 games for the Buccaneers, 9 tackles, 3 sacks
Jonathan Massaquoi (Falcons) – Appeared in 8 games for the Falcons
Ronnell Lewis (Lions) – Appeared in 7 games for the Lions

NT
Ron Edwards – 11 starts and 11 appearances for the Panthers, 7 tackles, 1 sack
Alex Carrington (Bills) – Appeared in 15 games for the Bills, 12 tackles, 2 sacks
Anthony Toribio

Chiefnj2 · 04-08-2013, 07:43 AM

mcaj22 already posted my thoughts.

UberSparky · 04-08-2013, 08:18 AM

What, none of you could woo Peyton from Horse face. I am disappointed.

**Rain Man** · 04-08-2013, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22

Team C would never ever ever happen

3 high picks on QBs in a 4 year span is completely unrealistic and too small of a sample time frame to jump off the wagon of one QB to another

it would have went Sanchez and Clausen or Clausen and Wilson

but not all 3. There is no evidence of that happening in the NFL ever.

Perhaps teams should consider doing this, then. If we already know that Sanchez and Clausen aren't the answer, then shouldn't NFL teams already know that, too? Draft quarterbacks and let them duke it out in training camp.

BlackHelicopters · 04-08-2013, 10:56 AM

Team C . Not close. I don't understand polls.Why? Why?

**Rain Man** · 04-08-2013, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

Team C . Not close. I don't understand polls.Why? Why?

We're not comparing to each other. We're comparing to Dorsey's predecessor.

**Ming the Merciless** · 04-08-2013, 11:12 AM

team c gave me a boner

View Poll Results: For each team, state whether it's better or worse than ... you know.
Part 1 - Team A (Do not check this.)	5	12.82%
This team is much better than the team built by Dorsey's predecessor.	6	15.38%
This team is a little better than the team built by Dorsey's predecessor.	2	5.13%
This team is roughly equal to the team built by Dorsey's predecessor.	16	41.03%
This team is a little worse than the team built by Dorsey's predecessor.	4	10.26%
This team is much worse than the team built by Dorsey's predecessor.	2	5.13%
Part 2 - Team B (Do not check this.)	5	12.82%
This team is much better than the team built by Dorsey's predecessor.	5	12.82%
This team is a little better than the team built by Dorsey's predecessor.	10	25.64%
This team is roughly equal to the team built by Dorsey's predecessor.	9	23.08%
This team is a little worse than the team built by Dorsey's predecessor.	2	5.13%
This team is much worse than the team built by Dorsey's predecessor.	2	5.13%
Part 3 - Team C (Do not check this.)	5	12.82%
This team is much better than the team built by Dorsey's predecessor.	28	71.79%
This team is a little better than the team built by Dorsey's predecessor.	2	5.13%
This team is roughly equal to the team built by Dorsey's predecessor.	1	2.56%
This team is a little worse than the team built by Dorsey's predecessor.	1	2.56%
This team is much worse than the team built by Dorsey's predecessor.	0	0%
I don't like to share my opinions about football on message boards.	3	7.69%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 39. You may not vote on this poll

04-07-2013, 09:50 PM
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3368491 VARSITY	Chiefsplanet GMs vs. Dorsey's Predecessor So a few of us have been playing a game for several years now in the casino forum, where we've pitted ourselves in the draft against the Chiefs' GM. In a coincidence, we started playing the same year that Dorsey's predecessor took over the Chiefs, so we have an interesting comparison. The rules have been strict. We have to complete our draft before training camp starts, and we have to cut our rosters to 53 by game day. We lose free agents as they leave, and we can only add free agents who join the Chiefs. We can accept or reject trades by the Chiefs if they involve players who are on our own roster. So the bottom line is that the draft is our main variable. Three people have been playing for all four years, and I present their rosters below. In the accompanying poll, please report whether you think they have drafted better or worse than Dorsey's predecessor, so they can adjust their self-esteem accordingly. Team A QB Matt Cassel Brady Quinn Ricky Stanzi RB Jamaal Charles Bernard Pierce (Ravens) – 532 yards rushing for the Ravens this year, 4.9 ypc, 1 TD, 47 yards receiving Shaun Draughn Cyrus Gray Nate Eachus FB Peyton Hillis WR Dwayne Bowe Jonathan Baldwin Dexter McCluster David Reed (Ravens) – 5 reception for the Ravens this year Steve Breaston TE Kevin Boss Steve Maneri Julius Thomas (Broncos) – Appeared in 4 games for the Broncos OT Branden Albert Eric Winston Nate Potter (Cardinals) – 6 starts at LT for the Cardinals G Jon Asamoah Kraig Urbik (Bills) – 13 starts for the Bills Ryan Lilja David DeCastro (Steelers) – No game appearances C Matt Tennant (Patriots) – Appeared in 8 games for the Eagles Rodney Hudson K Ryan Succop P Dustin Colquitt FS Kendrick Lewis Abram Elam SS Eric Berry CB Brandon Flowers Alterraun Verner (Titans) – 16 starts, 59 tackles,2 int, 1FF for the Titans Johnny Patrick (Saints) – 1 start and 15 game appearances for the Saints Stanford Routt DeQuan Menzie OLB Justin Houston Tamba Hali Andy Studebaker Justin Cole (Rams) – Appeared in 16 games for the Rams ILB Derrick Johnson Sean Lee (Cowboys) – 6 starts for the Cowboys this year, 36 tackles 1 int, 1 FF Demorrio Williams (Chargers) – 3 starts and 14 game appearances for the Chargers, 34 tackles, 2 int,1 FF Brandon Siler Eric Bakhtiari (free agent) – Appeared in 4 games for the 49ers DE Glenn Dorsey Tyson Jackson Kendall Reyes (Chargers) – 4 starts and 16 appearances for the Chargers, 17 tackles, 5.5 sacks Karl Klug (Titans) – 1 start and 15 game appearances for the Titans, 4 tackles, 3.5 sacks Wallace Gilberry – Appeared in 14 games for the Bengals, 15 tackles, 6.5 sacks, 1FF NT Anthony Toribio Jerrell Powe Alameda Ta'amu (Steelers) – No game appearances Team B QB Mark Sanchez (Jets) – 15 starts for the Jets, 2883 yards, 13 TDs, 18 Ints, 66.9 QB rating Brady Quinn Brock Osweiler (Broncos) – Appeared in 5 games for the Broncos, 12 yards passing Ricky Stanzi RB Jamaal Charles Peyton Hillis Shaun Draughn Nate Eachus WR Dwayne Bowe Jonathan Baldwin Rishard Matthews (Dolphins) – 1 start and 8 appearances for the Dolphins, 11 receptions Dezmon Briscoe (Redskins) – Appeared in 6 games for the Redskins, 2 receptions Steve Breaston B.J. Cunningham (Eagles) – No game appearances TE Kevin Boss Chase Coffman (Falcons) – Appeared in 5 games for the Falcons, 1 reception Jake O'Connell OT Branden Albert Eric Winston Donald Stephenson Selvish Capers (Giants) – Appeared in 3 games for the Giants G Lilja, Ryan Jon Asamoah David DeCastro (Steelers) – No game appearances C Rodney Hudson K Ryan Succop P Dustin Colquitt FS Abram Elam Geroge Iloka (Bengals) – Appeared in 7 games for the Bengals SS Eric Berry Tysyn Hartman CB Brandon Flowers Perrish Cox (49ers) – Appeared in 16 games for the 49ers, 11 tackles Jalil Brown Stanford Routt OLB Tamba Hali Justin Houston Edgar Jones Ricky Sapp (Jets) – Appeared in 3 games for the Jets Sergio Kindle (Ravens) – Appeared in 1 game for the Ravens ILB Derrick Johnson Vontaze Burflict (Bengals) – 14 starts and 16 appearances for the Bengals, 73 tackles, 1 sack Jovan Belcher DE Glenn Dorsey Ropati Pitoitua Allen Bailey NT Cam Thomas (Chargers) – 3 starts and 15 appearances for the Ravens, 14 tackles Terrence Cody (Ravens) – 3 starts and 15 appearances for the Ravens, 12 tackles Jerrell Powe Alameda Ta'amu (Steelers) – No game appearances Team C QB Russell Wilson (Seahawks) – 16 starts for the Seahawks, 3,118 yards, 26 TDs, 10 Ints, 100.0 QB Rating Mark Sanchez (Jets) – 15 starts for the Jets, 2883 yards, 13 TDs, 18 Ints, 66.9 QB rating Jimmy Clausen (Panthers) – No game appearances HB Jamaal Charles C.J. Spiller. (Bills) 7 starts and 16 appearances for the Bills, 1244 yards rushing, 6.0 ypc, 6 TD, 459 yards receiving Shaun Draughn Nate Eachus FB Peyton Hillis WR Dwayne Bowe Kendall Wright (Titans) – 5 starts and 15 appearances for the Titans, 64 receptions, 626 yards, 4 TD Leonard Hankerson (Redskins) - 5 starts and 16 appearances for the Redskins, 38 receptions, 543 yards, 3 TD Steve Breaston - WR Greg Salas (Rams) – 1 appearance for the Patriots TE Tony Gonzalez (Falcons) – 15 starts and 16 appearances for the Falcons, 93 receptions, 930 yards, 8 TD Kevin Boss - TE Steve Maneri - TE OT Branden Albert Eric Winston - RT Bruce Campbell (Raiders) - Appeared in 5 games for the Panthers G Wade Smith - 15 starts and 15 appearances for the Texans Alex Boone (49ers) – 16 starts for the 49ers Lilja, Ryan Jason Pinkston (Browns) – 6 starts and 6 appearances for the Browns Brian Waters - No game appearances C Rodney Hudson (Chiefs) K Alex Henery (Eagles) – 27 of 31 FG, 25 of 26 EP, 106 points P Dustin Colquitt FS Kendrick Lewis Charles Mitchell (Falcons) – Appeared in 9 games for the Falcons Travis Daniels SS Reshad Jones (Dolphins) – 16 starts for the Dolphins, 74 tackles, 4 int, 1 sack, 2 FF Abram Elam Tysyn Hartman - DB CB Brandon Flowers Alphonso Dennard (Patriots) – 6 starts and 10 appearances for the Patriots, 34 tackles, 3 int, 1 FF D.J. Moore (Bears) – 2 starts and 13 appearances for the Patriots, 25 tackles, 2 int Stanford Routt - CB OLB Tamba Hali Zach Brown (Titans) – 12 starts and 16 appearances for the Titans, 68 tackles, 5.5 sacks, 3 int, 1 FF Chris Carter (Steelers) – 3 starts and 8 appearances for the Steelers, 2 tackles Dekoda Watson (Buccaneers) – 16 appearances for the Buccaneers, 3 tackles Andy Studebaker ILB Derrick Johnson Rey Maualuga (Bengals) – 16 starts for the Bengals, 62 tackles, 1 sack Brandon Siler - ILB DE Glenn Dorsey Ropati Pitoitua Da'Quan Bowers (Buccaneers) – Appeared in 10 games for the Buccaneers, 9 tackles, 3 sacks Jonathan Massaquoi (Falcons) – Appeared in 8 games for the Falcons Ronnell Lewis (Lions) – Appeared in 7 games for the Lions NT Ron Edwards – 11 starts and 11 appearances for the Panthers, 7 tackles, 1 sack Alex Carrington (Bills) – Appeared in 15 games for the Bills, 12 tackles, 2 sacks Anthony Toribio
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04-08-2013, 07:43 AM	#16
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04-08-2013, 08:18 AM	#17
UberSparky Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Valley "freaking" Falls Casino cash: $10004900	What, none of you could woo Peyton from Horse face. I am disappointed.
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04-08-2013, 11:12 AM	#21
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