Chiefs Travis Kelce after OT loss: Chiefs 'have to man up' - Page 4

thabear04 · 11-20-2017, 08:32 AM

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...have-to-man-up

The Kansas City Chiefs lost their fourth game in five tries after Sunday's overtime defeat at the hands of the struggling New York Giants.

Following the loss, tight end Travis Kelce called out his teammates to step up to the challenge down the stretch.

"We have to man up," Kelce said, per the Kansas City Star. "Nobody is pointing fingers but guys have to get called out and be more accountable, and that starts with myself."

The Chiefs failed to score a touchdown on 12 drives against a defense that had allowed 82 points in their previous two games and came in allowing 473.5 yards per game in their past three tilts.

"You have to go out there and make plays, but we didn't," Kelce said.

The tight end was the Chiefs best offensive weapon, with Kareem Hunt mostly stuck in the mud. Kelce went for 109 yards on eight catches. However, he also had a brutal interception on a bizarre play call with the score tied late in the fourth quarter.

The Chiefs were supposed to walk into MetLife Stadium and wallop a punchless Giants team that appeared on the verge of mutinying on coach Ben McAdoo. Instead, New York showed more fight than the team battling for a playoff spot.

"I saw this, not this outcome, but this effort and this attention to detail coming a mile away," Kelce said of the Giants' energy. "Just because of all the stuff you heard in the media with [McAdoo] challenging them. Our job is to go out there and match it. We fell short."

Sitting at 6-4 in a limp AFC, the Chiefs are still in prime position for a playoff spot. K.C. owns a two-game lead in the AFC West with matchups against the Bills, Jets, and Raiders on tap. A winning streak would wipe away the bad taste from Sunday's loss in New Jersey.

WhiteWhale · 11-20-2017, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Bob

Can someone please make me a gif of Kelce's alligator arms?

You can always spot morons in these topics by looking for one thing:

Who are the dipshits calling out the best players on the team and blaming them instead of putting the blame on the scores of mediocre performers?

People like you wanted to trade Derrick Thomas. Shut the **** up.

Kelce wouldn't have been throwing anything if the offense (and specifically the QB) wasn't shitting the bed all goddamn game.

Red Dawg · 11-20-2017, 10:50 AM

Team is soft. Especially the OL. They are mega soft.

**The Franchise** · 11-20-2017, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg

Team is soft. Especially the OL. They are mega soft.

**** that bullshit. I'm tired of hearing this "offensive line sucks" bullshit. Half of their problem is the garbage QB behind center. He freaks out at the first sign of phantom pressure.

Discuss Thrower · 11-20-2017, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

**** that bullshit. I'm tired of hearing this "offensive line sucks" bullshit. Half of their problem is the garbage QB behind center. He freaks out at the first sign of phantom pressure.

Amazing how the offensive line has sucked in 2014, 2015, 2016 and also sucks in 2017.

jspchief · 11-20-2017, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

You guys really think having a dirty player will make a lick of difference for this defense? Look how many dirty players the Broncos have and their team is shit.

The Broncos are top 5 in nearly every defensive category. The only reason they aren't higher in scoring D is their offense's turnovers.

And it's not specifically about wanting/needing a dirty player. The toughest defenses in the league are always punishing tacklers that play with a nasty streak. Aggressive play that draws hate and claims of "dirty" from opposing fans. For all of Chiefs fans' crying over Denver being dirty, is sure as **** didn't keep that team from winning a super bowl.

Great defenses have a certain attitude. KC has none of it.

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pugsnotdrugs19 · 11-20-2017, 11:02 AM

Kelce saying that they can't beat cover 2 is about as direct at Smith as you can get.

WhiteWhale · 11-20-2017, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Kelce saying that they can't beat cover 2 is about as direct at Smith as you can get.

Unless he's saying coaches aren't calling plays to break cover 2.

I mean, in theory, just run 4 verts at them a few times successfully and they'll reconsider the coverage.

Discuss Thrower · 11-20-2017, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

Unless he's saying coaches aren't calling plays to break cover 2.

I mean, in theory, just run 4 verts at them a few times successfully and they'll reconsider the coverage.

Does that entail an extended drop back and making multiple reads?

bowener · 11-20-2017, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Kansas City doesn't have the media clout and franchise reputation to have a dirty player on the roster and not suffer the consequences of it on the field.

I don't want a dirty player on the field. I want a mean one. The Seahawks have bred a culture of controlled violence into their defensive identity. I want that. I don't want Burfict the idiot, but I would love somebody that has the mentality to hurt whoever they hit every single play like he does. Burfict sells out his body to destroy blockers. If you hit a TE hard enough several times a game, I bet most will start thinking too much and going for the chop block instead.

Ray Lewis might be the best example I can think of. He wasn't known for being dirty. He was smart and mean, and relished hitting people hard. Berry is the closest we have to that for sure.

**The Franchise** · 11-20-2017, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

Unless he's saying coaches aren't calling plays to break cover 2.

I mean, in theory, just run 4 verts at them a few times successfully and they'll reconsider the coverage.

Have you been missing the wide open WRs? Because Alex Smith has.

jspchief · 11-20-2017, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

**** that bullshit. I'm tired of hearing this "offensive line sucks" bullshit. Half of their problem is the garbage QB behind center. He freaks out at the first sign of phantom pressure.

This Oline has never been able to get the tough yard or first down when it mattered most. They never win the matchup when everyone on the field knows it's going to be a run. That's where they are soft.

Now, if you want to blame it on coaching and Reid not being committed to the running game, I'll certainly buy into that being a factor.

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WhiteWhale · 11-20-2017, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Have you been missing the wide open WRs? Because Alex Smith has.

No, I haven't. "Successfully' implies that it's not the call alone that solves the problem.

I was simply providing a possible alternative explanation for Kelce's words.

I'm not inside Kelce's head.

**RealSNR** · 11-20-2017, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

This Oline has never been able to get the tough yard or first down when it mattered most. They never win the matchup when everyone on the field knows it's going to be a run. That's where they are soft.

Now, if you want to blame it on coaching and Reid not being committed to the running game, I'll certainly buy into that being a factor.

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Dorsey has done nothing but draft for physical measurables. That's why he drafted Fisher and LDT. Fulton has calves like redwood tree trunks, and Mitch Schwartz hasn't been the problem in the running game ever. Maybe it's Morse? I can't say for sure.

The only constant in that department is coaching. Andy Heck has been here since Reid arrived.

No, I have no clue what he's doing wrong or how to fix it. I'm not an OL coach. Somewhere, somehow, we're not putting these guys in good positions to get push.

That could be on Reid as well.

**The Franchise** · 11-20-2017, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

This Oline has never been able to get the tough yard or first down when it mattered most. They never win the matchup when everyone on the field knows it's going to be a run. That's where they are soft.

Now, if you want to blame it on coaching and Reid not being committed to the running game, I'll certainly buy into that being a factor.

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Never? Are you ****ing stupid?

**ptlyon** · 11-20-2017, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

This Oline has never been able to get the tough yard or first down when it mattered most. They never win the matchup when everyone on the field knows it's going to be a run. That's where they are soft.

Now, if you want to blame it on coaching and Reid not being committed to the running game, I'll certainly buy into that being a factor.

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Not being committed to the running game?

That's the reason we are in 3rd and long most of the time.

11-20-2017, 08:32 AM
thabear04 MTFU Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Valley Heat Casino cash: $5750450	Travis Kelce after OT loss: Chiefs 'have to man up' http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...have-to-man-up The Kansas City Chiefs lost their fourth game in five tries after Sunday's overtime defeat at the hands of the struggling New York Giants. Following the loss, tight end Travis Kelce called out his teammates to step up to the challenge down the stretch. "We have to man up," Kelce said, per the Kansas City Star. "Nobody is pointing fingers but guys have to get called out and be more accountable, and that starts with myself." The Chiefs failed to score a touchdown on 12 drives against a defense that had allowed 82 points in their previous two games and came in allowing 473.5 yards per game in their past three tilts. "You have to go out there and make plays, but we didn't," Kelce said. The tight end was the Chiefs best offensive weapon, with Kareem Hunt mostly stuck in the mud. Kelce went for 109 yards on eight catches. However, he also had a brutal interception on a bizarre play call with the score tied late in the fourth quarter. The Chiefs were supposed to walk into MetLife Stadium and wallop a punchless Giants team that appeared on the verge of mutinying on coach Ben McAdoo. Instead, New York showed more fight than the team battling for a playoff spot. "I saw this, not this outcome, but this effort and this attention to detail coming a mile away," Kelce said of the Giants' energy. "Just because of all the stuff you heard in the media with [McAdoo] challenging them. Our job is to go out there and match it. We fell short." Sitting at 6-4 in a limp AFC, the Chiefs are still in prime position for a playoff spot. K.C. owns a two-game lead in the AFC West with matchups against the Bills, Jets, and Raiders on tap. A winning streak would wipe away the bad taste from Sunday's loss in New Jersey.
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