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Old 04-17-2015, 02:31 PM  
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My Official Endorsement of the #18 Overall Pick

I've spent a shit ton of time thinking about it, might as well do it.

2014: WR Brandin Cooks, Oregon State
2013: QB Geno Smith, West Virginia
2012: OLB Whitney Mercilus, Illinois
2011: OLB Justin Houston, Georgia
2010: QB Jimmy Clausen, Notre Dame

My official endorsement in 2015 is center Cam Erving, of Florida State.

Why not a WR: I don't anticipate that the three WRs I'd love (Cooper, White, Parker) will be available. I'm not a huge fan of DGB, and I have doubts in Perryman and Dorsett. I like the WR depth in this draft, especially on the 2nd day of the draft, and I'd prefer the Chiefs wait until then (or even better, trade down).

Why not a CB?: I believe that no player fits what John Dorsey wants in a draft pick more than Trae Waynes, but Waynes is likely a Top Ten pick. I think it's highly likely Dorsey selects Collins in the first round, but I have doubts there. Kevin Johnson is one of my favorite players in this draft but it's unclear to me if he's a schematic fit. And the character questions on Marcus Peters are too potentially severe to ignore. (Although, if the Chiefs select Peters, I'd trust Dorsey's judgement 100% since his resources are obviously drastically superior to mine, which don't exist.)

Why not an OT? I don't think tackle is a serious need for this team in 2015. Fisher should become a league average LT at least, and the team is basically married to him. We've got Jeff Allen and Donald Stephenson for RT, both of whom should be fine enough there, and I don't like burning first rounders on RTs anyway. Besides, Cam Erving can play tackle.

Why not a passrusher? Everybody is jonesing really hard for Dupree right now, and justly so, but he will likely be gone before our selection. Simply put, the Chiefs must sign Justin Houston. If they cannot sign him, than they need to land two 1sts for him and my assessment here would change.

Why not an ILB? There are no ILBs in this draft that I like at #18. My favorite is Denzel Perryman, and there's a chance he lasts to our 2nd rounder.

Why Erving?

1. Erving hails from the best center factory in the country -- a factory that has churned out Rodney Hudson himself and Bryan Stork, who's surprised me by manning the center position capably for the Super Bowl champions.

2. Erving possesses all the characteristics that make centers successful. He's got long arms, fantastic pulling ability, great strength, and positional flexibility. His arrow is pointing dramatically upward, and like Hudson, you can expect him to be at an All Pro level within a couple seasons' playing time.

3. A great line, as the Cowboys and 49ers has shown, relieves pressure on the rest of the offense. Smith will have more time to diagnose, and Charles will have a longer career.

4. The Chiefs, for all their bluster, have exhibited little faith in Eric Kush, making center the most obvious hole on our roster.

The question is not "who is the best player," the question is "who will improve the team that most in the short- and long-term.

To me, that answer is Cam Erving.

Barring, of course, that the Houston situation is hopeless. In which case, I reserve the right to alter this endorsement.
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Old 04-17-2015, 06:56 PM   #16
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Old 04-17-2015, 06:58 PM   #17
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Why the hell is Cam Erving a reach at 18?

The guy was likely a first round pick at tackle BEFORE he switched to center.

And in half a season (!!!) he only became the nation's best center.

There's absolutely no reason why he is not a Top 20 talent in this draft, if not a Top 15 talent.
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Old 04-17-2015, 07:10 PM   #18
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I officially despise this pick.

I'd literally go through the roof if the Chiefs pick Erving. It doesn't have a thing to do with whether I feel Erving is good or not, its the principal of drafting a center in round 1, on top of letting go of a top tier center in the off-season, on top of passing on several quality free agent players, on top of the fact that there are several quality centers beyond the first round starting with Grasu in the 2nd.

****... people give me shit about wanting an electric play-maker in the first round...

Seriously, if this is the pick, Erving better be the reincarnation of Bruce Matthews.
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Old 04-17-2015, 07:27 PM   #19
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Are you sure there's not a fullback or punter you'd rather have?

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Old 04-17-2015, 07:29 PM   #20
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The worst part is that this all ends in two weeks, then D (or V) will start his 2016 campaign to draft another meaningless positional player.
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Old 04-17-2015, 07:51 PM   #21
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Old 04-17-2015, 08:00 PM   #22
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I think it is a fundamental misunderstanding of the league we're talking about.

Using the draft to replace players who become too expensive for the team is standard operating procedure for a league with a salary cap.

Every ****ing team has to do it, and the Chiefs are no exception.
You just don't hear about teams doing it with centers. Maybe if the center in the draft is good value and the prospect has a Geno Smith-sized schlong that serves as an extra limb in fighting off defensive linemen at the snap. Then sure, why not.

Cam Erving is average, and you're having your period about a ****ing C that is no longer on the team.

Tell me, when we let Dexter McCluster walk in free agency last year, did you say, "UH OH. BIG ****ING HOLE IN THE ROSTER COMING UP. DRAFT A RETURNER IN THE 1ST ROUND, DORSEY!"

The fact that you're doing it over Rodney Hudson's departure is entirely laughable.

And **** you, milkman. Yes, I'm saying **** you pre-emptively, but I ****ing KNOW that if you read this, you'll immediately post some wise ancient Chinese adage about C being the most underrated position on the offensive line.

**** that. If you're so goddamn worried, then go sign a veteran like Brian de la Puente for chump change compared to Rodney Hudson. Cam Erving isn't going to be as good as Hudson for at least a few years anyway, and that's if he ever DOES become as good as Hudson is now. It's worthless to say, "UHOH WE'VE GOT A BIG HOLE IN THE OFFENSIVE LINE!" and then plug it immediately with a ****ing rookie who will get his shit pushed in all year and make Alex Smith's job just as difficult as if Eric Kush were starting.

Actually, he'll probably be worse. At least Eric Kush has NFL experience and NFL strength. We just don't know if he's a good player or not yet, that's all. With Cam Erving, the potential might be greater, but we're also dealing with more unknowns in the short term. And that's with our ****ing 1st round pick that we're jizzing away.

**** Cam Erving. **** you. **** your house. **** your car.
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Old 04-17-2015, 08:32 PM   #23
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My guess is the Chiefs' brass figured that if they re-signed Hudson, they wouldn't have enough to sign Houston. Probably better to keep the proven pass rusher and draft a premeir center than keep Hudson and take a shot on some dipshit project pass rusher like Dupree or Shane Ray in the first and hope he pans out converting to linebacker.

Of course if they can't re-sign Houston it backfires big time, but that might be what they were thinking.

Just a guess, though.
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Old 04-17-2015, 08:45 PM   #24
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You just don't hear about teams doing it with centers. Maybe if the center in the draft is good value
Then kindly tell everyone why so many draft sources are having Erving in the top 30?

http://www.ourlads.com/nfl-mock-draf...k-Draft-4.0/81
http://gbnreport.com/2015-nfl-draft-...p-100-players/
http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=1...&lnid=124&rc=4
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings
http://walterfootball.com/draft2015bigboard.php
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etc... oh, but let me guess... YOU.. some nobody jackass on a forum knows better, right? Why don't you go eat shit and hang yourself from a burning aids tree splashed with antifreeze? Who the **** are you to act as if your draft evaluations are worthwhile? You're just some arrogant dickhead that should have been swallowed by momma instead. **** you!!!!
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Then kindly tell everyone why so many draft sources are having Erving in the top 30?

http://www.ourlads.com/nfl-mock-draf...k-Draft-4.0/81
http://gbnreport.com/2015-nfl-draft-...p-100-players/
http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=1...&lnid=124&rc=4
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings
http://walterfootball.com/draft2015bigboard.php
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etc... oh, but let me guess... YOU.. some nobody jackass on a forum knows better, right? Why don't you go eat shit and hang yourself from an aids tree splashed with antifreeze? Who the **** are you to act as if your draft evaluations are worthwhile? You're just some arrogant dickhead that should have been swallowed by momma instead. **** you!!!!


You seem upset.

Just stop trying to control things in life that you can't control like somebody who makes you look like a flaming moron on a football message board. There's nothing you can do about being that ****ing dumb, so just chill out and enjoy the ride, man!
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You seem upset.

Just stop trying to control things in life that you can't control like somebody who makes you look like a flaming moron on a football message board. There's nothing you can do about being that ****ing dumb, so just chill out and enjoy the ride, man!
great job trying to dodge every legit point made.. tapout acknowledged.
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It doesn't look like #18 will be a good spot to be sitting in the draft for KC.

At 18 you are probably looking at an OL or DL being the best value.
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great job trying to dodge every legit point made.. tapout acknowledged.
Point to where I said he wouldn't get taken by anybody in the top 30, or go **** your grandfather.

"Tapout" indeed

What's it like being a self-righteous reerun? I'm curious.
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I officially despise this pick.

I'd literally go through the roof if the Chiefs pick Erving. It doesn't have a thing to do with whether I feel Erving is good or not, its the principal of drafting a center in round 1, on top of letting go of a top tier center in the off-season, on top of passing on several quality free agent players, on top of the fact that there are several quality centers beyond the first round starting with Grasu in the 2nd.

****... people give me shit about wanting an electric play-maker in the first round...

Seriously, if this is the pick, Erving better be the reincarnation of Bruce Matthews.
Erving offers more than just being a starting center, although he's got All Pro talent there.
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The worst part is that this all ends in two weeks, then D (or V) will start his 2016 campaign to draft another meaningless positional player.
Re-read the OP. Until last year, I've only been advocating quarterbacks and passrushers.
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