Pick The 8 Players KC Will Cut This Offseason

kccrow · 01-04-2015, 01:44 PM

I'm going to be doing a new mock up with who KC retains, who they cut, and who they sign with whatever money I end up with. You pick who they retain and who they cut from my polls. Pick 8 of the 16 players KC should cut to make cap space in 2015... I'll use the top vote getters. I'll worry about any re-structures that might need to be made for those retained.

Hoover · 01-04-2015, 01:51 PM

Its hard to cut Allen when you look at our guard situation. Really sucks to have to cut Berry considering his situation, I wish I knew all the options available to the team.

kccrow · 01-04-2015, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

Its hard to cut Allen when you look at our guard situation. Really sucks to have to cut Berry considering his situation, I wish I knew all the options available to the team.

They can outright cut. They can stash him on a non-football illness list that allows them to designate what rate they want to pay him, either nothing or some percentage of his total rate that will go against the cap. When the Browns Dezmond Bryant had a heart condition, they paid him 75% of his salary.

John Dope · 01-04-2015, 07:13 PM

That was tough! I really don't think they will cut Berry unless they are 100% sure he is done. I don't think Dorsey would do it and I don't think Clark would allow it. Plus, if you do that, you piss all the players off. You also piss players from around the league off. Imo we are still trying to repair our image that was damaged in the Pioli era imo. They gotta be careful about how they handle Berry.

Nightfyre · 01-04-2015, 07:27 PM

A few ideas: Berry can go back on the NFI list and his contract doesn't count against the cap. Bowe, DJ and Devito are restructure candidates. Stephenson will be cut for sure. Hali and Avery will be cut. Daniel and Mays should be cut.

edit: All that said, I didn't vote in the poll.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-04-2015, 07:41 PM

I'd like someone to name ONE valid, logical reason that Chase Daniel should be cut, especially if the Chiefs are gaining significant cap space by cutting Avery, Fasano, DeVito, Bowe, Hali, Mays and putting Berry on the NFI.

John Dope · 01-04-2015, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'd like someone to name ONE valid, logical reason that Chase Daniel should be cut, especially if the Chiefs are gaining significant cap space by cutting Avery, Fasano, DeVito, Bowe, Hali, Mays and putting Berry on the NFI.

We completely agree on Chase. They won't cut him. It won't happen.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-04-2015, 07:51 PM

There's no reason to cut Allen until after training camp at the earliest. He's better depth than the guys that replaced him this year.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-04-2015, 07:56 PM

They'll either restructure Hali, Bowe, DeVito and Johnson or cut them. I do believe that most will be back at a greatly reduced rate. Mays, Fasano and Jenkins are gone and if they're not, this team will be in for another long year offensively.

Sean Smith and Chase Daniel are untouchable. No way they cut either.

O.city · 01-04-2015, 08:03 PM

They'll wait to cut daniel into preseason anyway, if murray or bray come out with a bang and take over the number 2 spot and a vet from some other team gets surprise cut and they need money

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-04-2015, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

They'll wait to cut daniel into preseason anyway, if murray or bray come out with a bang and take over the number 2 spot and a vet from some other team gets surprise cut and they need money

Daniel will in no way, shape or form, be cut.

If he's not on the 2015 roster, it'll be because he was traded to a QB needy team, like Buffalo or the Jets, or to bring along a rookie QB.

$3.8 million for a capable backup QB is peanuts, especially with an injury prone starter in his 30's.

O.city · 01-04-2015, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Daniel will in no way, shape or form, be cut.

If he's not on the 2015 roster, it'll be because he was traded to a QB needy team, like Buffalo or the Jets, or to bring along a rookie QB.

$3.8 million for a capable backup QB is peanuts, especially with an injury prone starter in his 30's.

I don't think he will be, but that would be the only scenario I could see playing out where he is cut.

Or if Winston were to drop and they were on love with him and drafted him.

RunKC · 01-04-2015, 08:13 PM

The Chiefs are not cutting Fasano or Walker. Look at their cap number.

Both these guys have more dead money than cap savings so cutting them both does nothing but lose money. You're paying to get rid of them

Cutting them in 2016 however gives you back $2.77 million for Fasano and $2.52 million for Walker.

O.city · 01-04-2015, 08:14 PM

I don't mind either of those two really, they're fillers.

Wouldn't mind adding another dynamic TE tho.

jd1020 · 01-04-2015, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'd like someone to name ONE valid, logical reason that Chase Daniel should be cut, especially if the Chiefs are gaining significant cap space by cutting Avery, Fasano, DeVito, Bowe, Hali, Mays and putting Berry on the NFI.

One valid reason? How about he's not that good and there's no logical reason to believe that he brings more to the team than someone like Murray, Bray, or any rookie QB the Chiefs might draft/sign.

View Poll Results: Pick The 8 Players KC Will Cut (Savings in parentheses)
Jeff Allen, G/T (1,023,249)	5	10.20%
Sanders Commings, DB (464,622)	17	34.69%
Mike DeVito, DE (4,000,000)	35	71.43%
Cyrus Gray, RB (668,500)	18	36.73%
A.J. Jenkins, WR (1,337,390)	40	81.63%
Derrick Johnson, ILB (5,250,000)	8	16.33%
Eric Berry, FS (5,455,000)	22	44.90%
Donnie Avery, WR (3,550,000)	44	89.80%
Chase Daniel, QB (3,800,000)	31	63.27%
Dwayne Bowe, WR (5,000,000)	28	57.14%
Joe Mays, ILB (3,000,000)	22	44.90%
Anthony Fasano, TE (1,975,000)	31	63.27%
Tamba Hali, OLB (9,000,000)	38	77.55%
Donald Stephenson, T (685,000)	16	32.65%
Vance Walker, DL (1,750,000)	17	34.69%
Sean Smith, CB (5,500,000)	0	0%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 49. You may not vote on this poll

01-04-2015, 01:44 PM
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $3277078	Pick The 8 Players KC Will Cut This Offseason I'm going to be doing a new mock up with who KC retains, who they cut, and who they sign with whatever money I end up with. You pick who they retain and who they cut from my polls. Pick 8 of the 16 players KC should cut to make cap space in 2015... I'll use the top vote getters. I'll worry about any re-structures that might need to be made for those retained.
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01-04-2015, 01:51 PM	#2
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $1698179	Its hard to cut Allen when you look at our guard situation. Really sucks to have to cut Berry considering his situation, I wish I knew all the options available to the team.
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01-04-2015, 07:13 PM	#4
John Dope Banned Join Date: Jul 2014 Casino cash: $10009960	That was tough! I really don't think they will cut Berry unless they are 100% sure he is done. I don't think Dorsey would do it and I don't think Clark would allow it. Plus, if you do that, you piss all the players off. You also piss players from around the league off. Imo we are still trying to repair our image that was damaged in the Pioli era imo. They gotta be careful about how they handle Berry.
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01-04-2015, 07:27 PM	#5
Nightfyre MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Helena, MT Casino cash: $3678849	A few ideas: Berry can go back on the NFI list and his contract doesn't count against the cap. Bowe, DJ and Devito are restructure candidates. Stephenson will be cut for sure. Hali and Avery will be cut. Daniel and Mays should be cut. edit: All that said, I didn't vote in the poll.
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01-04-2015, 07:41 PM	#6
DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	I'd like someone to name ONE valid, logical reason that Chase Daniel should be cut, especially if the Chiefs are gaining significant cap space by cutting Avery, Fasano, DeVito, Bowe, Hali, Mays and putting Berry on the NFI.
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01-04-2015, 07:51 PM	#8
DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	There's no reason to cut Allen until after training camp at the earliest. He's better depth than the guys that replaced him this year.
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01-04-2015, 07:56 PM	#9
DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	They'll either restructure Hali, Bowe, DeVito and Johnson or cut them. I do believe that most will be back at a greatly reduced rate. Mays, Fasano and Jenkins are gone and if they're not, this team will be in for another long year offensively. Sean Smith and Chase Daniel are untouchable. No way they cut either.
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01-04-2015, 08:03 PM	#10
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2784064	They'll wait to cut daniel into preseason anyway, if murray or bray come out with a bang and take over the number 2 spot and a vet from some other team gets surprise cut and they need money
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01-04-2015, 08:13 PM	#13
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $2289611	The Chiefs are not cutting Fasano or Walker. Look at their cap number. Both these guys have more dead money than cap savings so cutting them both does nothing but lose money. You're paying to get rid of them Cutting them in 2016 however gives you back $2.77 million for Fasano and $2.52 million for Walker. __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Noah Gray
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01-04-2015, 08:14 PM	#14
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2784064	I don't mind either of those two really, they're fillers. Wouldn't mind adding another dynamic TE tho.
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