Chiefs *****The Kahlil Mackenzie Thread***** - Page 8

Dante84 · 09:31 PM

More to come....

“He can react very quickly. Great instincts.”

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Danguardace · 04-30-2018, 11:27 PM

Interesting his dad had the same plan as Veach for what it's worth.

Area Scout Pat Sperduto Discusses Kahlil McKenzie http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center/videos/Area-Scout-Pat-Sperduto-Discusses-Kahlil-McKenzie-/3210cccb-e6ae-4968-8376-7c7ff5acd358

Willie Lanier · 04-30-2018, 11:51 PM

Bad pick, but who cares?

It's a throwaway pick with albeit minimal upside...

Now is not the time to whine over gamble picks

staylor26 · 05-01-2018, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Willie Lanier

Bad pick, but who cares?

It's a throwaway pick with albeit minimal upside...

Now is not the time to whine over gamble picks

But this wasn’t a bad pick at all. High upside for the end of the 6th.

O.city · 05-01-2018, 06:12 AM

Eh they can talk about him being a first round guard and whatnot, but it’s still pretty meh taking a dl and asking him to move to guard. He hasn’t played guard for a while and didn’t play it in college.

That’s a year or two of likely transition.

It was a 6th round pick so it’s a good swing and it may work out as they have more knowledge about him than we do but I won’t be surprised if it doesn’t work

**RealSNR** · 05-01-2018, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Eh they can talk about him being a first round guard and whatnot, but it’s still pretty meh taking a dl and asking him to move to guard. He hasn’t played guard for a while and didn’t play it in college.

That’s a year or two of likely transition.

It was a 6th round pick so it’s a good swing and it may work out as they have more knowledge about him than we do but I won’t be surprised if it doesn’t work

You won't be surprised if it doesn't work?

Holy shit, guys. Breaking new hot take here! O.Shitty says he won't be surprised if a DL guy transitioning to an OL position doesn't work!

Like, if Mackenzie goes at it but then gets cut because the coaches just decide he can't hack it, O.Shitty won't be shocked that took place!

Holy ****ing crap! I mean, I know I personally thought Veach was GUARANTEEING that we'd have a new starting LG in Mackenzie at some point, and that he'd be really good! That's why he spent a whopping ****ing 6th round pick on him, after all! And that's gotta be what everybody else thought too, I'm sure. When you first heard the idea that the guy was going to play G instead of DL, I know we all thought, "Well, obviously, because barring catastrophic injury, there's no way this guy doesn't succeed at something he's never played!"

But then here comes O.Shitty. I mean, holy ****ing shit guys. I'm going to go blow my goddamn brains out. Can you ****ing believe this shit? He won't be SURPRISED IF A 6TH ROUND PICK TRANSITIONING TO A POSITION HE'S NEVER PLAYED BEFORE WON'T WORK OUT?!!!!!!!!!!

What the ****?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Buckweath · 05-01-2018, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Eh they can talk about him being a first round guard and whatnot, but it’s still pretty meh taking a dl and asking him to move to guard. He hasn’t played guard for a while and didn’t play it in college.

That’s a year or two of likely transition.

It was a 6th round pick so it’s a good swing and it may work out as they have more knowledge about him than we do but I won’t be surprised if it doesn’t work

Well 6th round picks are always very likely not to amount to anything special but this pick feels like the LDT pick also in the 6th round. It is a project but it seems to have upside and that's all you can ask from a 6th round pick really. LDT sure was a great pick.

staylor26 · 05-01-2018, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

You won't be surprised if it doesn't work?

Holy shit, guys. Breaking new hot take here! O.Shitty says he won't be surprised if a DL guy transitioning to an OL position doesn't work!

Like, if Mackenzie goes at it but then gets cut because the coaches just decide he can't hack it, O.Shitty won't be shocked that took place!

Holy ****ing crap! I mean, I know I personally thought Veach was GUARANTEEING that we'd have a new starting LG in Mackenzie at some point, and that he'd be really good! That's why he spent a whopping ****ing 6th round pick on him, after all! And that's gotta be what everybody else thought too, I'm sure. When you first heard the idea that the guy was going to play G instead of DL, I know we all thought, "Well, obviously, because barring catastrophic injury, there's no way this guy doesn't succeed at something he's never played!"

But then here comes O.Shitty. I mean, holy ****ing shit guys. I'm going to go blow my goddamn brains out. Can you ****ing believe this shit? He won't be SURPRISED IF A 6TH ROUND PICK TRANSITIONING TO A POSITION HE'S NEVER PLAYED BEFORE WON'T WORK OUT?!!!!!!!!!!

What the ****?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

O.city · 05-01-2018, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR

You won't be surprised if it doesn't work?

Holy shit, guys. Breaking new hot take here! O.Shitty says he won't be surprised if a DL guy transitioning to an OL position doesn't work!

Like, if Mackenzie goes at it but then gets cut because the coaches just decide he can't hack it, O.Shitty won't be shocked that took place!

Holy ****ing crap! I mean, I know I personally thought Veach was GUARANTEEING that we'd have a new starting LG in Mackenzie at some point, and that he'd be really good! That's why he spent a whopping ****ing 6th round pick on him, after all! And that's gotta be what everybody else thought too, I'm sure. When you first heard the idea that the guy was going to play G instead of DL, I know we all thought, "Well, obviously, because barring catastrophic injury, there's no way this guy doesn't succeed at something he's never played!"

But then here comes O.Shitty. I mean, holy ****ing shit guys. I'm going to go blow my goddamn brains out. Can you ****ing believe this shit? He won't be SURPRISED IF A 6TH ROUND PICK TRANSITIONING TO A POSITION HE'S NEVER PLAYED BEFORE WON'T WORK OUT?!!!!!!!!!!

What the ****?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I was responding to Staylors post above, so your post has no relevance here. Good job and move along.

staylor26 · 05-01-2018, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I was responding to Staylors post above, so your post has no relevance here. Good job and move along.

What was wrong with my post?

All I said was that it was a high upside pick for the 6th

Of course it wouldn’t be surprising if it doesn’t work out

O.city · 05-01-2018, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

What was wrong with my post?

All I said was that it was a high upside pick for the 6th

Of course it wouldn’t be surprising if it doesn’t work out

I don't consider taking a guy and asking him to play a position he's never played high upside, no matter the round.

staylor26 · 05-01-2018, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I don't consider taking a guy and asking him to play a position he's never played high upside, no matter the round.

Lol ok

This is a boom or bust pick relative to the round. High upside low floor.

By the way, he’s played the position. Just not in college.

staylor26 · 05-01-2018, 07:38 AM

How is this any different from when teams take basketball players late in the draft to play TE? Those are almost always high upside picks late in the draft.

O.city · 05-01-2018, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

How is this any different from when teams take basketball players late in the draft to play TE? Those are almost always high upside picks late in the draft.

It's not, and that doesn't work out very often either.

**ChiefGator** · 05-01-2018, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

It's not, and that doesn't work out very often either.

**RealSNR** · 05-01-2018, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I don't consider taking a guy and asking him to play a position he's never played high upside, no matter the round.

Is the learning curve any worse than drafting a guy whose football practices were conducted in French? Hell, the guy didn't even play football. He played Canadian football.

How about taking a tackle and saying, "Nah. You're gonna play center." That's what we did with Mitch Morse, and yeah, he had experience at C, but we also took him in the 2nd, not the 6th.

What about all the ****ing QBs over the years who were drafted with mid round picks and immediately moved to WR?

It's a 6th round pick. Would I have drafted Mackenzie, much less traded up for him? Provably not. But the pick has upside, which is all you can ask for out of guys taken in the 6th and beyond

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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2834064	Eh they can talk about him being a first round guard and whatnot, but it’s still pretty meh taking a dl and asking him to move to guard. He hasn’t played guard for a while and didn’t play it in college. That’s a year or two of likely transition. It was a 6th round pick so it’s a good swing and it may work out as they have more knowledge about him than we do but I won’t be surprised if it doesn’t work
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