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Old 06-02-2018, 10:12 AM  
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Has the UK gone past the point of no return in allowing themselves to be overtaken by muslims? This objective article is disturbing to read. They arrested,tried, convicted and imprisoned this anti-gang rape activist all within 24 hours now he’s likely to be murdered in prison by muslim gangs.



Tommy Robinson Drew Attention to ‘Grooming Gangs.’ Britain Has Persecuted Him.

The latest controversy is maddening for many reasons.
Tommy Robinson is a British political activist and “citizen journalist” who came to prominence in Britain almost a decade ago when he founded the English Defence League. The EDL was a street-protest movement in Britain whose aims could probably best be summarized as “anti-Islamization.” It emerged in the town of Luton after a group of local Islamists barracked the homecoming parade of a local regiment returning from service in Afghanistan.

From their earliest protests the EDL’s members sought to highlight issues including sharia law, Islam’s attitudes toward minorities, and the phenomenon that would become euphemistically known as “grooming gangs.” In reality these protests often descended into hooliganism and low-level violence (naturally helped along by self-described “anti-fascists”). The authorities did everything they could to stop the EDL, and the media did everything possible to demonize them. In a foretaste of things to come, very few people made any effort to understand them. And nobody paid any price for (indeed many people benefited from) claiming that the EDL was simply a fascist organization and that anybody who even tried to understand them must be a fascist too. The usual prohibition against sweeping generalizations doesn’t seem to apply if the generalization tilts in that direction...

...The controversy around him continued. In March, Robinson was suspended from Twitter, where he had almost half a million followers. The social-media site (which merrily allows terrorist groups like Lashkar e-Taiba to keep accounts) decided that Robinson should be suspended for tweeting out a statistic about Muslim rape gangs that itself originated from the Muslim-run Quilliam foundation. And it is on this matter that the latest episode in the Robinson drama started — and has now drawn worldwide attention.

Ten years ago, when the EDL was founded, the U.K. was even less willing than it is now to confront the issue of what are euphemistically described as “Asian grooming gangs” (euphemistic because no Chinese or Koreans are involved and what is happening is not grooming but mass rape). At the time, only a couple of such cases had been recognized. Ten years on, every month brings news of another town in which gangs of men (almost always of Pakistani origin) have been found to have raped young, often underage, white girls. The facts of this reality — which, it cannot be denied, sounds like something from the fantasies of the most lurid racist — have now been confirmed multiple times by judges during sentencing and also by the most mainstream investigative journalists in the country...

Although Robinson appeared to be careful at Leeds Crown Court last Friday, to dance along the line of exactly what he could or could not livestream outside an ongoing trial with a suspended sentence hanging over his head was extraordinarily unwise. What happened next went around the world: The police turned up in a van and swiftly arrested Robinson for “breach of the peace.” Within hours Robinson had been put before one Judge Geoffrey Marson, who in under five minutes tried, convicted, and sentenced Robinson to 13 months. He was immediately taken to prison....

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https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...es-journalist/
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Old 06-02-2018, 10:46 AM   #2
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You can't read deep about the grooming gang problem in Britain without realizing they're totally screwed.

This is what white guilt leads to.

White guilt isn't about white people feeling guilty as people think. White guilt is the paralyzing fear of being called a racist. The degree of white guilt is based on HOW FAR you will go to avoid being called a racist.

Allowing children to be raped and creating a cone of silence around the victims is an amazing level of white guilt that is hard to fathom, and we know it happened out of exactly that fear. They didn't want to be called racist.
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Old 06-02-2018, 12:04 PM   #3
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Old 06-02-2018, 12:09 PM   #4
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You can't read deep about the grooming gang problem in Britain without realizing they're totally screwed.

This is what white guilt leads to.

White guilt isn't about white people feeling guilty as people think. White guilt is the paralyzing fear of being called a racist. The degree of white guilt is based on HOW FAR you will go to avoid being called a racist.

Allowing children to be raped and creating a cone of silence around the victims is an amazing level of white guilt that is hard to fathom, and we know it happened out of exactly that fear. They didn't want to be called racist.
Interesting insight.

At some point this has to turn and the enemy be openly acknowledged. The question is when that happens will it be too late to act?

I was not aware of the child rape they call “grooming” perpetrated by these islamic immigrant animals. I can’t understand how the UK could allow themselves to be infiltrated to this degree. One thing for sure is if they hope to regain their societies and cultures there will be some very hard measures required.
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Old 06-02-2018, 01:14 PM   #5
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Interesting insight.

At some point this has to turn and the enemy be openly acknowledged. The question is when that happens will it be too late to act?

I was not aware of the child rape they call “grooming” perpetrated by these islamic immigrant animals. I can’t understand how the UK could allow themselves to be infiltrated to this degree. One thing for sure is if they hope to regain their societies and cultures there will be some very hard measures required.
More and more Britons are discussing it. One difference between US and U.K. (or other European democracies) is that Euro democracies have more ways for the government to do and end-around to avoid decisions of the people.

You say hard measures will be required to gain their culture and you are right. What concerns me is that the greater the efforts to prevent discussion and actively deal with it, the greater the push back. And history shows that things just go along quietly until suddenly they don’t.

That may sound stupid but the point is that historical reactions are not a gentle ebb and flo but sudden changes in fits and starts. I think earthquakes are a good analogy. If plates have ways to move in response to stress, there are many small earthquakes as plates adjust to pressure. But if the plate can’t move, pressure increases until the plate has to move, and then it is much more violent, Swift and destructive. By limiting debate and silencing one side as racist, Britain is preventing movement and ensuring a giant push back. Either that or there just wind up so many immigrants that Britain is no longer Britain as we know it.

I see signs in Britain and other Euro countries, though, that suggest to me violent conflict in the future. And if it starts in one country, it will spread. You can already see a rise in young people accepting not just a gentle nationalism but more and more strident nationalistic policies. The EU’s heavy hand does not help. And when that process starts, it will accelerate quickly.
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Old 06-02-2018, 01:21 PM   #6
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It is that other countries don't have a Bill of Rights that simply says that there are some things that the government can't do. Now the Supreme Court has swiss cheesed some exceptions to many of those fundamental rights but on the whole it is better than the cobbled together alternative like the Brits have or the pages long Constitutions that Europe has that try to account for almost every situation.
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Either that or there just wind up so many immigrants that Britain is no longer Britain as we know it.
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Hasn't that already happened?
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More and more Britons are discussing it. One difference between US and U.K. (or other European democracies) is that Euro democracies have more ways for the government to do and end-around to avoid decisions of the people.

You say hard measures will be required to gain their culture and you are right. What concerns me is that the greater the efforts to prevent discussion and actively deal with it, the greater the push back. And history shows that things just go along quietly until suddenly they don’t.

That may sound stupid but the point is that historical reactions are not a gentle ebb and flo but sudden changes in fits and starts. I think earthquakes are a good analogy. If plates have ways to move in response to stress, there are many small earthquakes as plates adjust to pressure. But if the plate can’t move, pressure increases until the plate has to move, and then it is much more violent, Swift and destructive. By limiting debate and silencing one side as racist, Britain is preventing movement and ensuring a giant push back. Either that or there just wind up so many immigrants that Britain is no longer Britain as we know it.

I see signs in Britain and other Euro countries, though, that suggest to me violent conflict in the future. And if it starts in one country, it will spread. You can already see a rise in young people accepting not just a gentle nationalism but more and more strident nationalistic policies. The EU’s heavy hand does not help. And when that process starts, it will accelerate quickly.

You accurately and succinctly fleshed out what I meant by hard measures. It won’t be pretty, it can’t be anything short of extreme, and it’s bound to happen. The question is will it happen soon enough for there to be enough people left to overcome the damage done.

They’re rotting from the inside and I hate watching it.
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Old 06-02-2018, 02:16 PM   #9
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Interesting insight.

At some point this has to turn and the enemy be openly acknowledged. The question is when that happens will it be too late to act?

I was not aware of the child rape they call “grooming” perpetrated by these islamic immigrant animals. I can’t understand how the UK could allow themselves to be infiltrated to this degree. One thing for sure is if they hope to regain their societies and cultures there will be some very hard measures required.
The measures should begin and end with prosecuting the politicians that willfully enabled violent criminal immigrants to arrive in droves into the country upon the citizens of England followed by incarceration right along side immigrant criminals they forced citizens to deal with for years while they hid in their gated communities with the 'do as I say, not as I do' mindset.

Until there are repercussions and consequence politicians have reason or motivation to change.
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You can't read deep about the grooming gang problem in Britain without realizing they're totally screwed.

This is what white guilt leads to.

White guilt isn't about white people feeling guilty as people think. White guilt is the paralyzing fear of being called a racist. The degree of white guilt is based on HOW FAR you will go to avoid being called a racist.

Allowing children to be raped and creating a cone of silence around the victims is an amazing level of white guilt that is hard to fathom, and we know it happened out of exactly that fear. They didn't want to be called racist.
I think anyone with functioning thought is aware of libtards blatant over use, false accusations and abuse of the label 'racist'. They should have read "The boy who Cried Wolf" parable about 10 years ago.

See resident scumbag AMD for a local example.
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Old 06-02-2018, 02:28 PM   #11
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It is that other countries don't have a Bill of Rights that simply says that there are some things that the government can't do. Now the Supreme Court has swiss cheesed some exceptions to many of those fundamental rights but on the whole it is better than the cobbled together alternative like the Brits have or the pages long Constitutions that Europe has that try to account for almost every situation.
European constitutions are based on the idea that the people get their rights from govt. Ours is the exception, in that natural rights such as speech, assembly, religion, self-defense etc. stem from our Creator or preceded govts based on our humanity. It makes a big difference. I don't know of any other country that bases theirs on this fundamental philosophical difference.
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More and more Britons are discussing it. One difference between US and U.K. (or other European democracies) is that Euro democracies have more ways for the government to do and end-around to avoid decisions of the people.

You say hard measures will be required to gain their culture and you are right. What concerns me is that the greater the efforts to prevent discussion and actively deal with it, the greater the push back. And history shows that things just go along quietly until suddenly they don’t.

That may sound stupid but the point is that historical reactions are not a gentle ebb and flo but sudden changes in fits and starts. I think earthquakes are a good analogy. If plates have ways to move in response to stress, there are many small earthquakes as plates adjust to pressure. But if the plate can’t move, pressure increases until the plate has to move, and then it is much more violent, Swift and destructive. By limiting debate and silencing one side as racist, Britain is preventing movement and ensuring a giant push back. Either that or there just wind up so many immigrants that Britain is no longer Britain as we know it.

I see signs in Britain and other Euro countries, though, that suggest to me violent conflict in the future. And if it starts in one country, it will spread. You can already see a rise in young people accepting not just a gentle nationalism but more and more strident nationalistic policies. The EU’s heavy hand does not help. And when that process starts, it will accelerate quickly.
It's accelerating now. The Italian elections are the beginning of the end, since Brexit has been stalled by PM May in cahoots with Soros, who is pushing for a repeat vote. Looked like the EU tried to throw the Italian election out by appointing one of their Goldman Sachs technocrats. However, there was a backlash over that so they backed off. Now Italy will be allowed to start deporting something like 500,000 migrants. Macron is in trouble too. There's talk in France that his election may have been rigged. I won't be surprised if he gets thrown out. Merkel as well.

But the big problem is the suppression of the press and speech in England and Germany. If you criticize Islam you get arrested in both Germany and now with Robinson in England. Stories on how many rapes committed by migrants don't all get into the press. Sweden is totally gonzo now too.

When I say the beginning of the end, that doesn't mean it may not take ten years to die but it's happening already.
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See resident scumbag AMD for a local example.
Well, when you look at Libya now, the slave markets is in full-bloom again. This is one of the consequences of the Obama Admin's State Dept's destruction of Libya. So looks like Obama resurrected the black slave trade. How ironic.
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Both the Islamacists and socialists sell a totalitarian system which is really a serfdom. So when we see blasphemy laws being enforced in a country ( like criticizing Islam) as is happening in Britain, Germany and Sweden—Sharia law is not far off. That's what's going on in England with the arrest of Tommy Robinson.

Free speech is under attack here as well, by going after low-hanging fruit first because people will support that if they find certain speech is despicable. Most people are timid, afraid to speak out against this curtailment of speech. So they go along with it like sheep.
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