NFL Draft Tamba Hali? MOTHER F*** you CARL!! - Page 9

**banyon** · 04-29-2006, 01:32 PM

If you like Hali fine.

But this was 10 picks too high to take this dude.

58-4ever · 04-29-2006, 04:02 PM

I was a Hali supporter as well. I saw Penn St. play 4 times last year, and I was impressed each time. Now, I want a playmaking safety.

Coach · 04-29-2006, 04:04 PM

Just a little info for some of you that don't know who Hali is or what he accomplished in 2005 at Penn State but are slightly depressed because the "experts" dropped him to a 2nd round choice based on an average Pro Day workout:

1st Team All American, Walter Camp All-America team, Named the Big Ten lineman of the Year by the conference's coaches, Led the Big Ten leading 11 sacks, 65 tackles and 17 tackles for a loss, Made key sack of OSU QB Troy Smith in their matchup which helped PSU win it's first Big Ten title since 1994, Finalist for the Nagurski Award and the second highest rated Defensive End in the 2005 NFL draft.

Based on his 11 sack season in the Big Ten last year and being a 1st team All American at his position in 2005 the ONLY REASON that he wasn't a top ten pick was because of his workouts.

To by quite honest, I don't care if he runs a 10 flat forty if the guy can pull 11 sacks in a 14 game season.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-29-2006, 04:05 PM

We need Darnell Bing or Ko Simpson

GoHuge · 04-29-2006, 04:10 PM

I like the pick. I want to see a football player instead of another project like Saivii with upside.

TEX · 04-29-2006, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Priestgets30TDs

Maybe it's not as big of a reach as I thought. The Giants probably would have taken Hali.

Not the best reasoning when you consider who they took.

**banyon** · 04-29-2006, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoHuge39

I like the pick. I want to see a football player instead of another project like Saivii with upside.

that's great then, because the scouts say this guy has already maxed out his potential.

HolmeZz · 04-29-2006, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banyon

that's great then, because the scouts say this guy has already maxed out his potential.

Tamba Hali is Jared Allen, with a little less skill rushing the passer but a good deal better against the run.

Ebolapox · 04-29-2006, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

I still don't understand how casual fans seem to "know" when players should be selected.

ya know, everyone just KNEW reggie bush would go first overall for most of the offseason...yeah, he didn't

everyone KNEW leinart would go ahead of vince young most of the offseason...yeah, he didn't

everyone KNEW winston justice would be a middle first rounder...yeah, he wasn't

personally, I like the pick--seems like a good kid, and let's face it...y'all are complaining about a guy who'll replace eric fucking hicks?!?

keg in kc · 04-29-2006, 04:15 PM

He's who I expected us to take. I actually think that he went lower than he should have because some of the online "experts" put too much stock in his workout numbers as opposed to his work on the field and dropped him in their mocks.

(JMO, but I think sometimes people put a little too much stock in guys who run sites who generally have no more valid inside information than we do. John Clayton is one thing. Jo Blow at draftbrainz.net is something else...)

I don't know that the draft could've gone better for us in terms of the way that it played out; we had our pick of Hali and Lawson (and whoever the Chiefs "third choice" was) and we're going to get someone good at 54.

Frosty · 04-29-2006, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banyon

that's great then, because the scouts say this guy has already maxed out his potential.

Really? Who said that? Do you have a link?

Ebolapox · 04-29-2006, 04:17 PM

and honestly...some of you guys are acting like we're the fuggin' buffalo bills all of the sudden...now THOSE guys are IDIOTS

**banyon** · 04-29-2006, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HolmeZz

Tamba Hali is Jared Allen, with a little less skill rushing the passer but a good deal better against the run.

so we could've gotten this guy in the 4th?

TEX · 04-29-2006, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc

He's who I expected us to take. I actually think that he went lower than he should have because some of the online "experts" put too much stock in his workout numbers as opposed to his work on the field and dropped him in their mocks.

(JMO, but I think sometimes people put a little too much stock in guys who run sites who generally have no more valid inside information than we do. John Clayton is one thing. Jo Blow at draftbrainz.net is something else...)

I don't know that the draft could've gone better for us in terms of the way that it played out; we had our pick of Hali and Lawson (and whoever the Chiefs "third choice" was) and we're going to get someone good at 54.

I totally agree.

HolmeZz · 04-29-2006, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banyon

so we could've gotten this guy in the 4th?

If we re-drafted the '04 draft, Jared Allen wouldn't go in the 4th. Allen's 4th round status had much more to do with him playing at a small school than it did him just not having talent.

1punkyQB · 04-29-2006, 04:24 PM

Chris Gocong might be another Jared Allen. Buck Buchanan award winner like Jared, incredibly productive rushing the passer at that level. And a round 2 or 3 guy. http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default...an_history.htm

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04-29-2006, 04:02 PM	#121
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04-29-2006, 04:04 PM	#122
Coach Champs! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $5988476	Just a little info for some of you that don't know who Hali is or what he accomplished in 2005 at Penn State but are slightly depressed because the "experts" dropped him to a 2nd round choice based on an average Pro Day workout: 1st Team All American, Walter Camp All-America team, Named the Big Ten lineman of the Year by the conference's coaches, Led the Big Ten leading 11 sacks, 65 tackles and 17 tackles for a loss, Made key sack of OSU QB Troy Smith in their matchup which helped PSU win it's first Big Ten title since 1994, Finalist for the Nagurski Award and the second highest rated Defensive End in the 2005 NFL draft. Based on his 11 sack season in the Big Ten last year and being a 1st team All American at his position in 2005 the ONLY REASON that he wasn't a top ten pick was because of his workouts. To by quite honest, I don't care if he runs a 10 flat forty if the guy can pull 11 sacks in a 14 game season. __________________ Super Bowl IV, LIV, LVII & LVIII Champions 2020, 2021, 2023, & 2024 AFC Champions 1985 & 2015 Major League Baseball World Series Champions 1980, 1985, 2014, & 2015 Major League Baseball American League Champions 2015 American League Central Division Champs
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04-29-2006, 04:15 PM	#129
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	He's who I expected us to take. I actually think that he went lower than he should have because some of the online "experts" put too much stock in his workout numbers as opposed to his work on the field and dropped him in their mocks. (JMO, but I think sometimes people put a little too much stock in guys who run sites who generally have no more valid inside information than we do. John Clayton is one thing. Jo Blow at draftbrainz.net is something else...) I don't know that the draft could've gone better for us in terms of the way that it played out; we had our pick of Hali and Lawson (and whoever the Chiefs "third choice" was) and we're going to get someone good at 54.
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04-29-2006, 04:17 PM	#131
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04-29-2006, 04:24 PM	#135
1punkyQB Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Virginia Casino cash: $10004900	Chris Gocong might be another Jared Allen. Buck Buchanan award winner like Jared, incredibly productive rushing the passer at that level. And a round 2 or 3 guy. http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default...an_history.htm
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