Handicapping the 2015 1st rounder.

[Direckshun]

It's way early, but we can speculate some.

QB: Unless Alex Smith totally implodes, I put the odds here at 0% that we go QB in the 1st round.

RB: We have the best RB depth chart in the NFL. 0%.

WR: We could seriously use more WR options, and there's a remote chance Bowe gets cut. 35%.

TE: I think the Chiefs are going to really dig on Devin Funchess who is technically a TE, even though he's more of a Jimmy Graham pseudo-WR. 5%.

OT: Possible. The Chiefs need a future bookend at RT, and Stephenson will be entering his contract year in 2015. 12%.

OG: Not terribly likely. This franchise likes to use low-rounders at the guard position, and they're likely getting Jeff Allen back for his contract year, and they're not going to bench Fulton. You don't draft a 1st round guard and bench them. 0%.

C: Only if Hudson isn't re-signed. And Hudson has to be priority #1 this offseason, aside from tagging Houston. There's no center that warrants a mid-1st, anyway. 1%.

NT: Not on your life. 0%.

DE: I think this is quietly becoming a real possibility. The Chiefs have two DEs hitting free agency in Allen Bailey (all year starter) and Kevin Vickerson (spot starter). I think the Chiefs should re-sign both, but odds are at least one of them hits the market. Even if they do bring one of them back, they only really have the average Jaye Howard and the unknown Mike Catapano. It's possible the Chiefs go DE here. 15%.

OLB: It's possible the Chiefs go OLB here, if the right talent falls (I bet Dorsey would draft Shawn Oakman and put him at OLB, even with Dee Ford). 3%.

ILB: Only if the talent is there. DJ might be done, and Joe Mays' contract was set up to make him a team friendly cut in 2015. I hate dropping a 1st rounder on ILB, but it's unlikely the talent will be there. 4%.

CB: I think it's 2nd most likely the Chiefs go with a CB in the 1st round. They may want to cut Sean Smith, but seeing how Cooper isn't progressing as fast as they'd hoped, they might just suck it up and let him play his contract out. They just spent a 3rd on Gaines, but he looks terrible. They need a future starter to groom. 25%.

S: They're likely going to extend Eric Berry, and Husain Abdullah, Sanders Commings, and Ron Parker all provide good talent at the position

[Dunerdr]

I think they'll go with the best player still available. What you did here was nice though, thanks.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Dunerdr

I think they'll go with the best player still available. What you did here was nice though, thanks.

Please, Dorsey has been a major reacher for positions of ostensible need for two straight years.

Fisher to replacing the departing Albert.
Ford to replace the departing Hali.

[OldSchool]

I just hope they don't reach for ILB, not a single one that's worth a 1st round pick.

CB, WR, 5-tech, OT, or another OLB in the first, I would be completely fine with that.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Please, Dorsey has been a major reacher for positions of ostensible need for two straight years.

Fisher to replacing the departing Albert.
Ford to replace the departing Hali.

This, which is why he's going to be drafting either an Offensive Lineman, an ILB, or a CB. There's almost zero chance of a Receiver at this point with Bowe and Avery signed throught he 2015 season and without a talent-less draft class at WR compared to this last draft, and he doesn't strike me as a reactionary drafter, he's a future drafter, so he's drafting the BEST fit of the BEST talent ahead of the year we will need him. Fisher and Ford are two prime examples of that, though I don't buy in to Hali being gone "that" soon.

I expect either another Tackle depending on if someone of high caliber and fitment falls to us (preferably a true LT), an Inside Linebacker ( I said last year we should move up and grab mosley, and here he is taking the solo DROY by himself, only a few spots ahead of us on the board), or a solid Man-Press corner with elite speed. I already know who my CB of choice is right now, and I'm putting a HIGH percentage that we draft him, if we are there, but I'm betting on a solid season and combine that he's gone in the top 10 and out of our reach. Meaning, we will (shocking) trade out of our spot to the late 20's, or even back to the second, to get an interior lineman.

Originally Posted by OldSchool

I just hope they don't reach for ILB, not a single one that's worth a 1st round pick.

CB, WR, 5-tech, OT, or another OLB in the first, I would be completely fine with that.

Ranked in order of need.

ILB
CB
RT
LG
WR
SS

Reaching for an inside linebacker is how we end up with guys like DJ, or how the Ravens get a guy like Mosley.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

Ranked in order of need.

ILB
CB
RT
LG
WR
SS

Reaching for an inside linebacker is how we end up with guys like DJ, or how the Ravens get a guy like Mosley.

The only one that I would even think of drafting in the 1st round is Denzel Perryman. Fantastic instincts and textbook tackler, but he lacks the sideline to sideline speed that I look for in a potentially elite MLB.

I'd rather have Shaq Thompson because of his speed and coverage abilities, but I don't see him being capable of taking on and shedding an NFL caliber OL player. He will be great in coverage on any TE or RB though.

[Direckshun]

Avery's deal is actually cut-friendly at the end of the year.

[Dante84]

What we know about John Dorsey:
- He drafts for the future, 1 or 2 years earlier than needed at a position. He uses year 1 for development (Fisher at RT, Ford as a backup, Gaines as a backup, Kelce behind Fasano, Knile behind Charles, etc...)

- He is a measurables freak. Height, Arm Length, Hand size, and Power/Explosion are his be-all, end-all. (But what about DAT? His speed and burst are the measurables Dorsey loved).

- Semi-major injury history concerns are of no consequence to him. (Knile, Kelce)

[Bewbies]

Dear God please let it be a WR or CB.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

The only one that I would even think of drafting in the 1st round is Denzel Perryman. Fantastic instincts and textbook tackler, but he lacks the sideline to sideline speed that I look for in a potentially elite MLB.

I'd rather have Shaq Thompson because of his speed and coverage abilities, but I don't see him being capable of taking on and shedding an NFL caliber OL player. He will be great in coverage on any TE or RB though.

I have a feeling its either going to be an obvious pick based on a glaring need, if we cut someone, or it may end up as a headscratcher to many. The obvious pick screams WR/CB/T for our first rounder, but it very well might be CB/S or G if we trade back.

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Avery's deal is actually cut-friendly at the end of the year.

He's honestly THE MOST glaring casualty on this roster in terms of clearing the cap space you've been Chicken Littling about lately. 500k dead money? No big deal. 3.5M cap space, big deal.

Originally Posted by DA_T_84

What we know about John Dorsey:
- He drafts for the future, 1 or 2 years earlier than needed at a position. He uses year 1 for development (Fisher at RT, Ford as a backup, Gaines as a backup, Kelce behind Fasano, Knile behind Charles, etc...)

- He is a measurables freak. Height, Arm Length, Hand size, and Power/Explosion are his be-all, end-all. (But what about DAT? His speed and burst are the measurables Dorsey loved).

- Semi-major injury history concerns are of no consequence to him. (Knile, Kelce)

I wouldn't say he's a "complete" measurables guy, but he's pretty damned close to it. Looking forward, its very possible he ends up drafting a DT/DE as well, should we stand to lose Allen Bailey or prepare a backup to Poe.

Originally Posted by Bewbies

Dear God please let it be a WR or CB.

Right now, I'd put the big money on it being CB if we land between 13 and 19 in draft order.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

He's honestly THE MOST glaring casualty on this roster in terms of clearing the cap space you've been Chicken Littling about lately. 500k dead money? No big deal. 3.5M cap space, big deal.

I love it when people criticize or mock me while completely agreeing with my point.

[Direckshun]

It's super early, but here are some players I see Dorsey salivating over in the 1st round:

WR Dorial Beckham-Green, Missouri (if he declares)
WR Sammie Coates, Auburn
TE Devin Funchess, Michigan State
OT Cedric Ogbuehi, Texas A&M
OT Andrus Peat, Stanford
DE/OLB Shawn Oakman, Baylor
DE/OLB Randy Gregory, Nebraska

Too bad like every one of them (except perhaps Coates) will be a Top Ten pick.

Not a lot of corners I've been watching just yet really jump out as Dorsey prototypes for the 1st round.

You need elite speed, be very long, and experienced in press man. That's the prototype I used to conclude Gaines would be a perfect fit in KC, and sure enough, Gaines became a Chief (and two round sooner than I would have guessed).

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

I love it when people criticize or mock me while completely agreeing with my point.

I'm criticizing your calling for cutting every single player on this team every other week "for cap space" when we don't truly "need" to cut them for that specific reason.

I agree with Avery because he's unproductive, not just because he's the most obvious cut from this team in a "for cap space" move.

Originally Posted by Direckshun

It's super early, but here are some players I see Dorsey salivating over in the 1st round:

WR Dorial Beckham-Green, Missouri (if he declares)
WR Sammie Coates, Auburn
TE Devin Funchess, Michigan State
OT Cedric Ogbuehi, Texas A&M
OT Andrus Peat, Stanford
DE/OLB Shawn Oakman, Baylor
DE/OLB Randy Gregory, Nebraska

Too bad like every one of them (except perhaps Coates) will be a Top Ten pick.

Not a lot of corners I've been watching just yet really jump out as Dorsey prototypes for the 1st round.

You need elite speed, be very long, and experienced in press man. That's the prototype I used to conclude Gaines would be a perfect fit in KC, and sure enough, Gaines became a Chief (and two round sooner than I would have guessed).

You're not thinking Dorsey, dude. You're thinking "prototypical draft position", and when it comes to the offense that will be as much Andy's decision as it is Dorsey's.

That being said, you're right about Coates, unless a team reaches on him or sees something nobody else will see post-combine, he's going to slide. Slow 40 times + Injury + rough declaration season screams 2nd round pick, just wait on that one.

Cooper is the "ideal" WR from this draft for an Andy Reid offense with the guys we already have here, though we won't be within 8 picks of him, at best.

The guy to watch in the 1st round at Corner for us, is PJ Williams if he slides, but I don't expect him to slide far enough for us to draft him. Solid speed, totally coachable, super high ceiling. Worth every penny of a 1st round pick for us in the teens.

HOWEVER, the guy from this draft that's going to get drafted by us in the 3rd or 4th round, is Eric Murray. Keep an eye out for him because that's your "fast enough" press man corner from this draft IMO. Super physical guy, doesn't seem to get ran away from, seems to be pretty decent with downfield body positioning, he's near the top of my "watch list" for CBs for this team, and with a plethora of Compensatory selections "hopefully" coming our way, I expect us to use a 3rd on him if he shows up at the combine.

At DE, Shawn Oakman's got to be tops for us, he's going to end up in the mid/late first I almost guarantee it. His measurables won't reflect his tape, and his "off" size might concern a few teams.

Corey Crawford's the late round/potentially undrafted guy to watch, though I'm positive he gets drafted. He needs a little coaching for sure, but the guy has talent, and I don't know what it is about him, but he's everywhere. I'm super stoked to see him at the combine.

Now, for the "oddball" positions I think we'll strongly consider drafting with the 1st or 2nd pick.

ILB: Now, assuming that we finish stronger than projected, but don't trade back and not many super stellar options are available, I don't find it at all surprising to see Dorsey draft an ILB here. Not only was it a glaring need coming into the 2014 draft, but its even more a glaring need coming out of the 2014 season.

Here are my 3 guys.

McKinney from Mississippi state, guy has the size, speed, and athleticism to be a pretty disruptive force at ILB/MLB in the NFL, and a total stopgap IMO for this team should we lose either Berry or DJ in the off season. 2014 we had a glaring draft need for ILB, Mosley left the board, we passed on about 3 or 4 solid thumpers who could have come in and immediately started after Mosley was selected, and here we find ourselves in the season without both starting ILB's and a huge question mark on whether DJ and the captain/signal caller of our defense will be back. While I dont know if he'll be the signal caller type yet, I can say with decent confidence that he could start immediately and be a thumper. And oh boy can he pass rush too!

AJ Johnson, Tennessee: I don't think I have to say much about the kid, here's a sideline to sideline thumper that can get plain disruptive. The NFL types are going to compare him to the likes of Urlacher or Lewis, I'd bet on it, but he's got more coverage skills, but a bet less tenacity than those two. Kind of an inbetween between a DJ and a Ray Lewis, just without the "elite" talent that those two had. That being said, AJ could totally transition to the next level and "should" start immediately on ILB deficient teams. Probably going to take a little time to get him up to speed, and I don't firmly believe he's the signal caller type, as much as he's just an amazingly gifted explosion of NFLness.

But my #1 oddball pick for drafted an ILB this year?

Eric Kendricks out of UCLA. I know, I know, he needs to bulk up because he's got a light frame. I've heard that a million times, but this guy is extraordinary. Smart football player, total sideline to sideline guy, and again, totally smart football player. He's probably the "lone" guy in this upcoming draft that could signal call on defense as well as provide a solid, consistent performance at the NFL level, if he can bulk up just a little. He doesn't have the "perfect" size, but as Mayock will say, its more about "eye level", and of course he needs to add a bit of muscle, but god damn does this guy sound like he could captain a defense as a rookie. Jim Mora Jr. prospect right here, so you know he's been instilled with a professional outlook on preparedness and analysis of defenses, offenses, and the adjustments that need to be made.

He's the ONE guy that I think we are almost surefire drafting if we let DJ go, because there's simply no other option, IMO, in this draft for a talented future "captain" of the defense.

It is my opinion, that he's a better fit for us, and better overall prospect than Denzel Perryman.

Also, I'm fairly positive that Andy Reid drafted his brother Mychal Kendricks a few years back.


As for the other "oddball" guys, they are as follows.

1: Vadal Alexander, Guard/Tackle from LSU, this guy is the only "ready to start" RG in this draft, and he can play RT as well. He's about as solid as they get for run blocking in this draft, and being the Chiefs, we need to continue with that ability to do so. Pass protection is pretty good, and he's BIIIIIG. He's moved around LSU's line for a while now, playing LG (currently), RG previously and RT previously.

Not only is he the best interior lineman in this draft, even better than Grasu from Oregon, but he's extremely versatile as well. He can play basically every position except for say LT, which I doubt we'd give him a shot at. Personally, I'd stick him at LG or RG and let him and Fulton duke it out for which side they want, but I believe Vadal will be the better RG.

2: Kurtis Drummond S/ Michigan State(probably in the 2nd round). This guy is totally going to end up as a Free Safety. Good size, good frame, decent speed, smart, and probably makes Dorsey splooge with the measurables and production from said measurables. He's going to need a little coaching up, but the combination of Berry and Drummond together would be just ****ing silly for this defense if we shore up the inside linebacker position. Drummond is all over the place, always finding the ball, he's just a gamer, and I love gamers. I feel like Jon Gruden when I talk about the guy. However, because of a few bad PAP bites, he's probably going to fall to the 2nd round, which is great if we move back late int he first or back to the 2nd with our 1st round selection.

3. Brandon Scherff OT/Iowa

Most likely Scherff gets drafted earlier than we'll get to shoot at, but after a minor injury and surgery, and then the "meat" of the big 10 schedule coming up, I have a feeling he's going to play well, but not have any tape that just jumps out at you, not like some of the other guys will. Solid pass protector, very good run blocker, could play either tackle without missing a beat. I guess we'd have to figure out where Fisher really belongs before a pick like this, but I'm guessing Fisher at LT, Scherff at RT, and all our pass protection woes are a thing of the past from the outside rushers.

[kccrow]

My ratings and the percent chance I give Dorsey of drafting in round 1:

1. WR (15%)
2. CB (25%)
3. OG (0%)
4. DE (30%)
5. ILB (5%)
6. RT (20%)
7. All others (5%)

[Direckshun]

Who do you see at DE that you think is a Dorsey pick, kccrow?