Ronda Rousey vs. Floyd Mayweather who would win?

[BigRedChief]

Almost everyone agrees that if boxing rules were used Mayweather would win. No contest.

So here is the rules for our hypothetical fight:

Either no rules or UFC rules.

I think Rousey gets him into an armbar in the 1st round and its over.

[Sensual Lardass]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Rousey is an Olympic gold medalist at judo. She knows grappling technique better than many of the dudes on the circuit. She's not some talentless hack.

I didn't say she was.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Brock

Can you name one of these men in her weight class she could "go toe to toe with"?

Glass Joe, maybe? Possibly Von Kaiser...

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

A 41 year old boxer who was dragging around 50 extra pounds of flab got worked over by one of the best MMA fighters in history. What does that have to do with the best boxer in history still in his prime fighting a woman?

The point is it's wishful thinking that Mayweather would land that 1 punch.

He has no idea how to defend takedowns. Rousey in training takes down male MMA guys who are bigger than her. But somehow, Mayweather can do it.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Brock

Can you name one of these men in her weight class she could "go toe to toe with"?

She probably wouldn't win many. Too much of a strength disadvantage. But she could hold her own against the bottom bantamweights.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

She probably wouldn't win many. Too much of a strength disadvantage. But she could hold her own against the bottom bantamweights.

I have my doubts about even that. I like ronda a lot, but fighting a grown man with a lot of skills? Nah. I do not like her chances.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Rousey is an Olympic gold medalist at judo. She knows grappling technique better than many of the dudes on the circuit. She's not some talentless hack.

Everyone agrees that if its a boxing match its over quick.

The crucial point of this hypothetical fun exercise is can she get close enough to him to take him down. I think, and most people would agree that its over if she gets him on the canvass because the armbar is a coming soon.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by New World Order

The point is it's wishful thinking that Mayweather would land that 1 punch.

He has no idea how to defend takedowns. Rousey in training takes down male MMA guys who are bigger than her. But somehow, Mayweather can do it.

You defend takedowns by not letting her get anywhere near close enough to grab him, and there isn't a human being in the planet who is better at doing that than Floyd Mayweather. His footwork is perfection. His timing is perfection. His accuracy is perfection.

His entire strategy would be 'don't let her get close enough to tackle you'. He can handle that in his sleep. He fights the best athletes in the world for a living. Ronda is slow and weak compared to the worst fighter he's ever faced.

He is quicker than she is. He is faster than she is. He is stronger than she is. He would absolutely murder her. I can't believe this is even a discussion.

Professional bowling has a women's division...****ng bowling. Why? Because women can't compete with men even in a sport that requires as little physical rigor as bowling because women can't roll a ball as fast as men. But some chick beats up other chicks, so she can beat Floyd ****ing Mayweather.

[alnorth]

Rousey would clearly, obviously win and it wouldn't even be close.

Now, if you tell Mayweather 6 months in advance and have him train with a grappler working on nothing but takedown defense, then it wouldn't be a good matchup for Rousey at all, but right now he would not have any clue at all how to avoid getting thrown on his ass and put into an armbar.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Everyone agrees that if its a boxing match its over quick.

The crucial point of this hypothetical fun exercise is can she get close enough to him to take him down. I think, and most people would agree that its over if she gets him on the canvass because the armbar is a coming soon.

She would never get him to the canvas...not in a million years. Even if she did, he is strong enough to fend her off long enough to get to his feet. Submission holds aren't easy, especially when you're both covered in sweat. She has zero chance. If Vegas made her a 100:1 underdog, I would sell off everything I own to wager it in Mayweather.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

You defend takedowns by not letting her get anywhere near close enough to grab him, and there isn't a human being in the planet who is better at doing that than Floyd Mayweather. His footwork is perfection. His timing is perfection. His accuracy is perfection.

Mayweather does not avoid the clinch. He gets into a clinch all the time. This idea that he would figure out how to do what strikers have not been able to accomplish against a grappler ("not let them get anywhere close to them") is contradicted by years of actual fights by hundreds of fighters.

The only way it ever happens is if the striker nails their opponent 30 seconds in the first round before they have a chance to close, and I don't really count that because thats not really what you are describing.

[alnorth]

I think its also useful to point out that when we talk about takedowns, most people think about wrestling single or double-leg takedowns.

Rousey does not do that. She has perfected the hip toss, and a boxing clinch which Mayweather is very comfortable with getting into, is a near-perfect situation for a hip toss (which is obviously illegal in boxing).

The boxing clinch is a crucial part of Mayweather's defensive game that he gets into several times every single round, you can't tell me he's going to successfully avoid it.

[jonzie04]

Originally Posted by alnorth

I think its also useful to point out that when we talk about takedowns, most people think about wrestling single or double-leg takedowns.

Rousey does not do that. She has perfected the hip toss, and a boxing clinch which Mayweather is very comfortable with getting into, is a near-perfect situation for a hip toss (which is obviously illegal in boxing).

The boxing clinch is a crucial part of Mayweather's defensive game that he gets into several times every single round, you can't tell me he's going to successfully avoid it.

This is the EXACT reason why Ronda couldn't take Floyd down... Floyd is undefeated for a reason dude, he's a very smart guy. He knows good and well that Ronda Will take him down, and sub him if she can get into clinch range.. He is not going to let that happen. If Ronda was masterful at cutting off the cage, and setting up and timing takedowns like a GSP or something then I could see it, but with the way she plods foward with her hands down. She'd be so off balance he could take her down...Though he would opt to knock her out.

[DJ's left nut]

Somehow this reminds me of the Tyson vs. Lee debates.

Everyone just assumes that the martial artist is this master strategist and the boxer is a slow, lumbering dipshit that doesn't know how to defend himself against a takedown.

Just exactly how the hell is Rousey going to get Mayweather to go to ground? The girls Rousey is hip-tossing aren't anywhere near as athletic as Mayweather. Moreover, once she gets him there, he's not going to just give her his arm. Finally, we've seen someone like Jon Jones simply be too damn strong to take out via a simple arm bar and Mayweather will have a similar relative advantage with regards to Rousey.

Maybe in 10 fights, Mayweather screws up a couple of times and Rousey gets to him, gets him on the ground, gets a hold of his arm, gets it extended and gets a rip. But Mayweather's going to win the vast majority of those matchups. He's a brilliant fighter and among the best athletes in the history of the sport. He's not going to just stand there - he'll learn some basic defenses and lean on some pretty insane athleticism to pick his spots and poke/pop Rousey into the L.

[Chief_For_Life58]

lol all u guys who chose mayweather know absolutely nothing about fighting. rousey would take floyd down in about 10 seconds and then the fight would be over in about under a minute probably

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by alnorth

I think its also useful to point out that when we talk about takedowns, most people think about wrestling single or double-leg takedowns.

Rousey does not do that. She has perfected the hip toss, and a boxing clinch which Mayweather is very comfortable with getting into, is a near-perfect situation for a hip toss (which is obviously illegal in boxing).

The boxing clinch is a crucial part of Mayweather's defensive game that he gets into several times every single round, you can't tell me he's going to successfully avoid it.

Explain to me how she's going to get past a Mayweather jab...the most effective weapon in the history of boxing. She's a great female athlete. That makes her a ridiculously, laughably bad athlete compared to professional boxers.

She is slow. She is weak. Floyd would abuse her, and it would be painful to watch.