Gas on the Fire: Shutdown Corner Gives Chiefs "F" in FA.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58

Chiefs are going to need to do some great coaching this year, and better production from younger guys in order to get better results this year. I think though Reid showed at San Diego, he is capable of doing it.

All of those guys who couldn't beat out the deadwood starters who just got cut.

Uh huh.

[ForeverChiefs58]

Originally Posted by 3rd&48ers

I think Indy just scored again

Charles just scored 4 more touchdowns on you while you typed that.

[ForeverChiefs58]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

All of those guys who couldn't beat out the deadwood starters who just got cut.

Uh huh.

I know, I'm just trying to hang onto something lol

[R8RFAN]

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58

Charles just scored 4 more touchdowns on you while you typed that.

He was knocked the **** out.... Yall would have probably won that game if he was in there

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I love how Albert misses 9 games out of a possible 96 in his 6 years here, and people are making him out as the second coming of Tony Moeaki or Brodie Croyle.

Most of this board severely underestimates the drop off from a Top 10 LT to essentially a rookie, who couldn't handle the opposition's 2nd best pass rusher last year and is going to face the best of the best this year.

This.

[bevischief]

They suck again...

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by Inmem58

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Originally Posted by Inmem58

Yep, this didn't come to me as a shocker. We did horrible. We basically lost our whole team lol. Good thing we have Alex Smith he doesn't need help

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[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I love how Albert misses 9 games out of a possible 96 in his 6 years here, and people are making him out as the second coming of Tony Moeaki or Brodie Croyle.

Most of this board severely underestimates the drop off from a Top 10 LT to essentially a rookie, who couldn't handle the opposition's 2nd best pass rusher last year and is going to face the best of the best this year.

Anyone who wants top flight money from this franchise gets shat upon by the fan base. It's absolutely ludicrous.

Judging by the last 3-4 years here, Bowe is no better than JJ Birden and Albert was Damion McIntosh.

And of course Larry Johnson was made out to be Donnell Bennett.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

we still did next to nothing in free agency.

If we decided that all those guys weren't good enough then we should have replaced them in free agency. Our backups couldn't beat all those 'sucky' guys out of their starting jobs last year but now we expect them to be better than the guys they couldn't win a job from?

Regardless of how you want to spin it, last year and this year represent conflicting philosophies. Last year was a 'add talent wherever/whenever you can to win game'. This year is 'patiently build for the future and avoid spending big money on old guys'.

flip-flopping between philosophies is not a good idea, it almost always ends in failure.

Pretty sure this is false. Didn't the majority of the guys we signed last year who were contributors get signed very late in the offseason? To act as though free agency is over is silly.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'd bet that if Stephenson was going to be playing LT this season, people wouldn't be as concerned. He's proven he can play the position.

The only thing Fisher has proven is that he can't handle the opposition's 2nd/3rd best pass rusher.

There's going to be a massive drop off, and even the "unicorns and ice cream" guys are going to be complaining eventually.

I'm not so sure. Obviously footwork is a problem for him on the right side. Also, the pass rusher on that side is typically more of a power guy, which Fisher struggled with, which makes even more sense with his footwork on that side.

The last time we played Denver, Von Miller lined up against Fisher every snap. Fisher handled him. Miller really didn't do anything of note. Am I crazy to think this could be b/c Von was a speed guy rather than power?

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

so you agree with me.

last year was a PR quick fix to keep SOC from flying planes over Arrowhead and now we are rebuilding

3-5 year plan while Charles,DJ,Flowers,Hali keep us from totally sucking

I don't think it was a PR move at all.

We needed a QB. There wasn't one in the draft that they liked and Smith was exactly what Reid was looking for in a QB - in fact, he tried to get him earlier when he was at the Eagles. Best potential QB signing of the past two drafts and free agency periods in fact. Pretty ****ing savvy move if you ask me.

Sean Smith was the best cornerback available that fit Sutton's press man scheme.

Mike DeVito was familiar with Sutton's defense and provided a relatively inexpensive long term solution to solidifying the defensive line.

The best players on the current Chiefs team are what they are - the best players on the current Chiefs team.

I think you are trying to read too much into this.

Thinking that going out and signing every ****ing guy possible in free agency is a good thing isn't a good thing. You don't win, especially win long term, with that type of plan.

[mcaj22]

When was the last time the Chiefs had a late round pick "progress" into an NFL starter or some sort of capable full time player?

You have to go back to 2008 in that draft we ended up pissing away the entire core/window and say 5th round pick Brandon Carr

so 6 years later, we are banking on late round picks Catapano, Commings, Kush, ****ing even third round picks like Kelce to step and save the Chiefs. When it hasn't happened in SIX ****ING YEARS. But now all of a sudden in 2014 it's going to? Based on what? false hope? grasping at straws? Hoping Dorsey is a genius? He very well could be, but the fact that he has no insurance policy if this fails and blows up in his face and the fans again turn on another front office in the span of less than 10 years.

How else are they going to save face/spin it if they have a losing season in 2014? There's no excuse if they don't have a winning record with Alex Smith. They sat on their hands and did nothing to improve the roster. So I'm not going to be happy with 8-8 or 9-7 in 2014 and say "hey we did well against a tough schedule and we will have a lot of comp picks now for 2015! See 2014 wasnt a waste we are going to be like Seattle! Seattle! Seattle!"

**** off with that crap

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

So several of us who were very unhappy last year came back after the playoff loss and apologized. We were wrong about Alex Smith. 11-5 was the proof.

If this team wins 5 or 6 games, are all of you guys that think this is great going to do what we did? Or do we have to wait one more year?

To be fair, Alex only closed the season strong. If he starts the season like he ended last season, he'll do for now.

That's what he earned from me last season, the benefit of the doubt and a chance to sit me up this season. We'll wait and see.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Douche Baggins

Anyone who wants top flight money from this franchise gets shat upon by the fan base. It's absolutely ludicrous.

Judging by the last 3-4 years here, Bowe is no better than JJ Birden and Albert was Damion McIntosh.

And of course Larry Johnson was made out to be Donnell Bennett.

Larry wasn't that good.

Though, I agree that the Albert/McIntosh comparison is valid.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58

Yeah. He played for that same raiders defense that let us put up 56 pts. Jackson was pretty good against the run, and crappy against the pass, all chiefs did was flip it. Vance freaking walker still would keep it an F-.

Actually. Walker is known for being a run stuffer. The fact that he's a better rusher than T Jax is just icing.