Raiders HC Dennis Allen fired?

[Chiefs Pantalones]

@APtcollins: My sources tell me that @RAIDERS HC Dennis Allen is fired and an announcement could come as soon as Tuesday

Raiders gonna Raider. 10th straight loss today.

[Red Dawg]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

The Raiders have not been above .500 in 11 seasons.
The Lions have one double digit win season in their last 19.


Those are your AFC and NFC bottom feeding teams.

And this matters how? In pro sports you are either the champ or you're nobody. Chiefs have been no better.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

And this matters how? In pro sports you are either the champ or you're nobody. Chiefs have been no better.

I think what he's saying is we have sucked less, which is true. As far as being up there competing with the big boys but sadly falling short. Only one team succeeds every year and that's the one on top. But they have had literally no hope for over a decade now. None. I'd take our last 11 years over that mess any time. Sure they have a SB appearance but it's not about appearances. They've just been awful.

People complain about our drafts...the Raiders have had one draft pick pan out in the last 15 plus years. ONE. And that was a kicker. It could be worse my fellow Chiefs fans and look over to the bay and that's the worst.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

And this matters how? In pro sports you are either the champ or you're nobody. Chiefs have been no better.

Yeah, the 2013 Broncos were no better than the 2013 Jaguars.

Get the **** out of here with that bullshit. There's a huge range between top of the heap and bottom of the shit barrel.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

I think what he's saying is we have sucked less, which is true. As far as being up there competing with the big boys but sadly falling short. Only one teams succeeds every year and that's the one on top. But they have had literally no hope for over a decade now. None. I'd take our last 11 years over that mess any time. Sure they have a SB appearance but it's not about appearances. They've just been awful.

We haven't had hope in the last decade either. We have been a dumpster fire on rails train wreck.

Herm kicked off the suck. Our fans embraced it. Just dont mess with our tailgating and murder / suicides and we will be happy little fans.

[Wallcrawler]

I still don't know why they let Jon Gruden go. He's the one that turned the team around, built the offense around the strengths of Rich Gannon, and turned the team into a contender. Who knows what happens to that team if that bullshit Tuck Rule doesn't happen in that playoff game.

They kick Gruden to the curb only for him to go to Tampa, give them just enough of a boost to their offense and let that epic defensive unit carry them to the Superbowl where he literally destroys his former team by telling said epic defense every single thing that they were about to do before they did it.

Bill Callahan was running Jon Gruden's offense against Jon Gruden and a savage Tampa Bay defensive unit. It was over before it ever started.

It doesn't really get more epic fail than that.

[Eleazar]

I initially forgot that the Raiders actually retained last years coach. It seems like they have a new HC every year..

He was 4-12 two years in a row which makes you wonder, why fire him now? If you brought him back then why not give him the season? What are they, worried about saving this season and making the playoffs or something?

[KChiefs1]

They fired him in London?

[Jiu Jitsu Jon]

Originally Posted by Cochise

I initially forgot that the Raiders actually retained last years coach. It seems like they have a new HC every year..

He was 4-12 two years in a row which makes you wonder, why fire him now? If you brought him back then why not give him the season? What are they, worried about saving this season and making the playoffs or something?

Yeah, Allen's in his third year here. He has been kept probably to prove that Oakland will give coaches more than one year. I don't think it unreasonable to have expected some sort of improvement in his third year. Allen has lost the locker room, and it shows on the field. I don't know what the deal is, but the team will not play for him. Now it's Sporano time. He cannot be worse than Allen. I don't even know you, and I'd bet you would not do worse than Allen.

They should bring Madden back. When you saw those sideburns, you knew he meant business.

[Why Not?]

Originally Posted by Jiu Jitsu Jon

Yeah, Allen's in his third year here. He has been kept probably to prove that Oakland will give coaches more than one year. I don't think it unreasonable to have expected some sort of improvement in his third year. Allen has lost the locker room, and it shows on the field. I don't know what the deal is, but the team will not play for him. Now it's Sporano time. He cannot be worse than Allen. I don't even know you, and I'd bet you would not do worse than Allen.

They should bring Madden back. When you saw those sideburns, you knew he meant business.

While Allen may not be any good, that roster is so terrible that Mckenzie should have been left at Heathrow. MJD, Matt Schaub, Charles Woodson? Lombardi would go 2-14 with that team

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by Why Not?

While Allen may not be any good, that roster is so terrible that Mckenzie should have been left at Heathrow. MJD, Matt Schaub, Charles Woodson? Lombardi would go 2-14 with that team

Charles Woodson has actually been one of their best players on defense, lol. He broke up several passes against the Pats and was a big reason why the Pats had problems scoring against them.

That being said, McKenzie has had some shitty drafts; this year's class was his best by far but he still ****ed up the other ones.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

I still don't know why they let Jon Gruden go. He's the one that turned the team around, built the offense around the strengths of Rich Gannon, and turned the team into a contender. Who knows what happens to that team if that bullshit Tuck Rule doesn't happen in that playoff game.

They kick Gruden to the curb only for him to go to Tampa, give them just enough of a boost to their offense and let that epic defensive unit carry them to the Superbowl where he literally destroys his former team by telling said epic defense every single thing that they were about to do before they did it.

Bill Callahan was running Jon Gruden's offense against Jon Gruden and a savage Tampa Bay defensive unit. It was over before it ever started.

It doesn't really get more epic fail than that.

The Raiders didn't fire Gruden. They traded him away.

That was back when you could trade your coach.

[Jiu Jitsu Jon]

Originally Posted by Why Not?

While Allen may not be any good, that roster is so terrible that Mckenzie should have been left at Heathrow. MJD, Matt Schaub, Charles Woodson? Lombardi would go 2-14 with that team

Schaub hasn't started a game yet. That may change. Carr couldn't put weight on one leg, but still completed a pass on the next play. If half the team had the heart of Carr, they wouldn't be 0-4.

Bench Carr. He's not too shabby for a rookie, especially considering what he's had to work with. Let someone else get killed out there, we're not building the team around anyone named Matt...

And McKenzie did haul in Mack, Carr and Gabe Jackson this year.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

The Chiefs were above .500 for 9 consecutive seasons under Schottenheimer, including a pair of 13-3 years.

And they won more games in the '90s than any other team.

[Jiu Jitsu Jon]

Originally Posted by splatbass

And they won more games in the '90s than any other team.

90s FTMFW

[PornChief]

They just make it hard for themselves to find quality staff when they're firing them every season, I'd think job security would be high on the list of any sought-after coach.
But boo hoo **** them.