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oaklandhater · 04-27-2016, 02:21 PM

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The Sam Bradford Fiasco in Philadelphia
The Eagles moved up in the draft to presumably take a quarterback, leading Bradford to request a trade. It’s a bold move for a QB whose on-field numbers leave much to be desired. Plus, answering your mailbag questions about Tom Brady, Josh Norman and more

The team most likely to trade up is...
The MMQB's Peter King, Jenny Vrentas and Gary Gramling discuss the team most likely to trade up into the first ten picks of the 2016 NFL Draft.
One point is lost in this Sam Bradford fiasco in Philadelphia: Nothing ever, ever, ever is guaranteed in football. To prove that, let’s go back in time to the 2006 draft, 10 years ago this week. The Arizona Cardinals, picking 10th overall with an aging Kurt Warner on their roster, chose USC’s Matt Leinart as their long-term quarterback of the future.
“A gift from heaven,’’ coach Dennis Green called Leinart.
Then football happened. Leinart wasn’t as good as everyone thought, and there was a coaching change after his rookie year, and Leinart didn’t like new coach Ken Whisenhunt. Warner rallied, determined to keep the starting job. By the third year of the Leinart experiment, the job was Warner’s full-time, and he led them to a Super Bowl.

Photo: Julio Cortez/AP
If Bradford, a former first overall pick, is better than Carson Wentz (the Eagles’ presumed pick at No. 2 this year), he’s going to be the starting quarterback in Philadelphia as long as he outplays the kid. Or Bradford’s going to play well enough this year to prove to the rest of the league that he deserves a shot to be some team’s long-term guy. Bradford has done no such thing yet. He’s been very good since entering the league in 2010 at making money—and not nearly as good at playing football. That is not a knock on Bradford. It is simply a fact. He’s had three injuries that have kept him out of extensive action, and it is not possible yet to judge how good he is, or whether a team should mortgage its salary cap on him.
On Monday night, Bradford’s agent, Tom Condon, explained Bradford’s thinking on Sirius XM NFL Radio: “Sam wants to play somewhere where he’s going to stay for a long time if he plays well. He wants to be the guy. He does not view himself as a stopgap quarterback.”
Every quarterback wants to be “the guy.” But Bradford simply hasn’t proven beyond a doubt that he deserves to be that guy. That’s why the Eagles gave him a two-year contract and not a five-year deal. The following numbers underscore the problem with Bradford and Condon talking as if he’s a well-established starting quarterback. In career quarterback rating, here are the 54th, 56th and 58th ranked players in NFL history:

What I would say to Bradford:
1. You have earned the right to be ticked off that the Eagles are going to draft a quarterback intended to beat you out.
2. You have not earned the right to go on strike over it.
3. You have been paid massively and so far have not produced to justify what the Rams and Eagles have paid you.
4. You control your fate. Be the best quarterback in camp, and you’ll play. Compete.

BigBeauford · 04-27-2016, 03:09 PM

All of this is moot. They have Chase Daniels who will lead them to the promised land.

milkman · 04-27-2016, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Because you have a fan base that gives you millions of dollars, so you have an obligation to try to put the best man for the job out there.

No it isn't.

Your obligation (should be) as a franchise to build a team that can compete long term.

The best man for that job this year isn't a medicre QB that might make a 2 game difference at best.

It's the guy that can hold down the position while mentoring the investment on the bench.

Red Dawg · 04-27-2016, 03:12 PM

Bradford is a bust that has been way overly paid. His contract was only for two years even though they gave him a lot.

What makes him think any team wants to make him the man? His stats are shit and his teams have never won more that 7 games. Being way over paid has made him think he's good.

**BossChief** · 04-27-2016, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

No it isn't.

Your obligation (should be) as a franchise to build a team that can compete long term.

The best man for that job this year isn't a medicre QB that might make a 2 game difference at best.

It's the guy that can hold down the position while mentoring the investment on the bench.

It depends on what team were talking about.

Denver or NY should be trying to get the best QB on the field they can.

Mile High Mania · 04-27-2016, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

It depends on what team were talking about.

Denver or NY should be trying to get the best QB on the field they can.

No reason for Denver to make a move for him.

oaklandhater · 04-27-2016, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

No reason for Denver to make a move for him.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...n-sam-bradford

Mile High Mania · 04-27-2016, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...n-sam-bradford

Yeah, read that... I'm not surprised they'd 'reach out', you almost have to inquire. They have a more cap friendly guy with more accomplishments in Sanchez, adding Bradford wouldn't make any sense.

King_Chief_Fan · 04-27-2016, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

No reason for Denver to make a move for him.

Yes...please stay content to have Sanchez. ..he is a winner

....but probably equal to Bradford

Toby Waller · 04-27-2016, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

Yes...please stay content to have Sanchez. ..he is a winner

....but probably equal to Bradford

No,Bradford has actually thrown the ball forward

listopencil · 04-27-2016, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

No it isn't.

Your obligation (should be) as a franchise to build a team that can compete long term.

The best man for that job this year isn't a medicre QB that might make a 2 game difference at best.

It's the guy that can hold down the position while mentoring the investment on the bench.

It looks like that is the situation that Bradford is in right now and he's balking at it. If some team trades for him then he's going to get pissy if he's expected to hold the fort while the QBOTF is brought along.

Mile High Mania · 04-27-2016, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

Yes...please stay content to have Sanchez. ..he is a winner

....but probably equal to Bradford

Oh... I'm not 'content' with the QB situation. Sanchez sucks and I doubt he'll be the starter for more than 4 games, barring injury. I still kinda think something happens in a trade with SF, but who knows. It's not like that option is too much better than anything else, but I'd roll with Kaep over Sanchez or Bradford.

I just don't see there being a need to have Bradford for that price if you already have Sanchez. Hell, roll with the unknown backup or whatever you draft - no need to take that cap hit with Bradford.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-27-2016, 05:10 PM

I remember when some at CP wanted to draft the Llama.

lol

Toby Waller · 04-27-2016, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagnabit

I remember when some at CP wanted to draft the Llama.

lol

**Scorp** · 04-27-2016, 06:15 PM

Philly fan reacts....

**Bob Dole** · 04-27-2016, 08:35 PM

Bradford is a walking, talking ace bandage.

Always will be.

04-27-2016, 02:21 PM
oaklandhater future chiefs fans Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oakland california Casino cash: $7598993	The Sam Bradford Fiasco in Philadelphia http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/04/27/t...gles-nfl-draft The Sam Bradford Fiasco in Philadelphia The Eagles moved up in the draft to presumably take a quarterback, leading Bradford to request a trade. It’s a bold move for a QB whose on-field numbers leave much to be desired. Plus, answering your mailbag questions about Tom Brady, Josh Norman and more The team most likely to trade up is... The MMQB's Peter King, Jenny Vrentas and Gary Gramling discuss the team most likely to trade up into the first ten picks of the 2016 NFL Draft. One point is lost in this Sam Bradford fiasco in Philadelphia: Nothing ever, ever, ever is guaranteed in football. To prove that, let’s go back in time to the 2006 draft, 10 years ago this week. The Arizona Cardinals, picking 10th overall with an aging Kurt Warner on their roster, chose USC’s Matt Leinart as their long-term quarterback of the future. “A gift from heaven,’’ coach Dennis Green called Leinart. Then football happened. Leinart wasn’t as good as everyone thought, and there was a coaching change after his rookie year, and Leinart didn’t like new coach Ken Whisenhunt. Warner rallied, determined to keep the starting job. By the third year of the Leinart experiment, the job was Warner’s full-time, and he led them to a Super Bowl. Photo: Julio Cortez/AP If Bradford, a former first overall pick, is better than Carson Wentz (the Eagles’ presumed pick at No. 2 this year), he’s going to be the starting quarterback in Philadelphia as long as he outplays the kid. Or Bradford’s going to play well enough this year to prove to the rest of the league that he deserves a shot to be some team’s long-term guy. Bradford has done no such thing yet. He’s been very good since entering the league in 2010 at making money—and not nearly as good at playing football. That is not a knock on Bradford. It is simply a fact. He’s had three injuries that have kept him out of extensive action, and it is not possible yet to judge how good he is, or whether a team should mortgage its salary cap on him. On Monday night, Bradford’s agent, Tom Condon, explained Bradford’s thinking on Sirius XM NFL Radio: “Sam wants to play somewhere where he’s going to stay for a long time if he plays well. He wants to be the guy. He does not view himself as a stopgap quarterback.” Every quarterback wants to be “the guy.” But Bradford simply hasn’t proven beyond a doubt that he deserves to be that guy. That’s why the Eagles gave him a two-year contract and not a five-year deal. The following numbers underscore the problem with Bradford and Condon talking as if he’s a well-established starting quarterback. In career quarterback rating, here are the 54th, 56th and 58th ranked players in NFL history: What I would say to Bradford: 1. You have earned the right to be ticked off that the Eagles are going to draft a quarterback intended to beat you out. 2. You have not earned the right to go on strike over it. 3. You have been paid massively and so far have not produced to justify what the Rams and Eagles have paid you. 4. You control your fate. Be the best quarterback in camp, and you’ll play. Compete.
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