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Old 04-07-2013, 10:05 AM  
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My final Geno thread before the draft
Simple question. Will you be upset if the Chiefs draft Geno Smith? If so, why?
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Old 04-07-2013, 08:29 PM   #166
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Joeckel doesn't fit Reid's "LT" players, based on history.
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Old 04-07-2013, 08:32 PM   #167
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Pick who you want, we will have that pick next year and you will have the second pick
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:07 PM   #168
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Reid did when he was drating Mcnabb. I couldnt remember who but somebody offered Reid there whole draft for the #2 spot and Reid said no.
How does that count? He was already up top. I said, "sell the house to move UP and secure a QB".
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:09 PM   #169
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:09 PM   #170
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If only we had Daniel Snyder calling the shots here, it would be paradise!
Say what the **** you will, they did what had to be done. And if you can't get behind that kind of move, then you obviously don't want a legit QB.
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:14 PM   #171
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I did. Geno is not a franchise QB like you are claiming. Hell he's not that great of a QB prospect at that.

If we take a QB, I want a guy who we believe can be a franchise QB one day. It's obvious that we aren't the only one's who believe Geno isn't that guy.

The LT's are the best prospects in this draft and that's our plan.
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:15 PM   #172
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Joeckel doesn't fit Reid's "LT" players, based on history.
We are drafting BPA and Joeckel is the BPA. Him or Fisher. One of the LT's, unless we can't trade Albert.

We don't trade Albert and it's Dion Jordan time.
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:18 PM   #173
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But they are just better football players than Geno.

And Luke Joeckel looks to be better than Branden Albert for multiple reasons.
Name them. I'll wait.
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We are drafting BPA and Joeckel is the BPA. Him or Fisher. One of the LT's, unless we can't trade Albert.

We don't trade Albert and it's Dion Jordan time.
So bpa doesn't account for need and or positional value?

If joeckel and fisher are bpa, an that's what we are drafting why does itatter in terms of what they do with Albert?
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I did. Geno is not a franchise QB like you are claiming. Hell he's not that great of a QB prospect at that.

If we take a QB, I want a guy who we believe can be a franchise QB one day. It's obvious that we aren't the only one's who believe Geno isn't that guy.

The LT's are the best prospects in this draft and that's our plan.
No, you're not answering his question.

His question is at what point does positional value overtake individual player value.

I hesitate to paraphrase, but his thinking is that no LT will ever have 1:1 value. So he will always choose a "lesser" player at another position over the top LT.

Meaning to him, if he agrees for the sake of argument that Geno is not a franchise QB, he would still take him over any of the tackle prospects, despite their (again, theoretical for the sake of argument) higher grades.

So basically a QB with a 91 rating is more valuable than a LT with a 98.

(This happens to be my thinking as well)

His point was at what point to you agree with that, if ever? And then further, with which positions would that be true?

Is that a fair characterization SNR?
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So bpa doesn't account for need and or positional value?

If joeckel and fisher are bpa, an that's what we are drafting why does itatter in terms of what they do with Albert?
BPA will determine what Dorsey values more a LT or a QB.
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Again if we use the same reasons we do for why geno doesn't fit, based on Reid's history, how does joeckel fit? He's not a big physical lt. Doesn't have elite measurables either.


If they take a lt, i don't see it being him
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So bpa doesn't account for need and or positional value?

If joeckel and fisher are bpa, an that's what we are drafting why does itatter in terms of what they do with Albert?
I wouldn't be surprised if we draft a LT and keep Albert regardless.

QB is not a need now. We have our guy. And he's going to be here awhile. Let it go.
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