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11-15-2014, 10:40 PM | #2 |
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It's a shit thing to do but the man is going to get fired one way or another. No reason for you to ruin your Christmas too.
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11-15-2014, 10:42 PM | #3 |
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The theory of Deontology would tell you to stand up for the kid. It's the right thing to do.
However, Katipan makes a good point. It doesn't seem like it's gonna do much good even if you try. |
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Sounds like the young boss is a punk bitch
Kick his ass for him |
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11-15-2014, 10:45 PM | #6 |
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The question lies here: do you really want to work with someone like this? I don't know what kind of job it is or how the benefits weigh out, but if this guy is that much of a tool I would happily take the documentation while looking for a different job. It's only a matter of time until he views you as a threat and plots your demise as well.
That is your option, or you could take this matter above his head.
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11-15-2014, 10:46 PM | #7 |
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11-15-2014, 10:47 PM | #8 |
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I always try to put myself in the person who is getting fired shoes. So, I have no problem with firing people over the phone. I would be pissed to be called in, myself knowing the whole drive something isn't right. Why make me waste the trip... and gas? I coulda been out looking for a job! And I hate the mid day and end of the day firings. You mean you wanted me to work all day for you and then fire me? **** You! I coulda been out looking for a job!
Worst of them all is the firings by letter. I have seen them done but never done myself. Firing any one is not a thing of pleasure anyway you go about it. Sometimes there isn't wrong way or right way to do it. Just that it has to be done |
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11-15-2014, 10:51 PM | #9 |
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The problem is a lazy, entitled shitheel that inherited his position and didn't have to interview for it. He doesn't like being called out on not doing his job when he's supposed to be setting the example.
He's always late, which is funny because he makes the ****ing schedule. Always at least ten minutes late and leaving one to two hours early. Multiple trips outside for smoke breaks that range from ten to twenty minutes leaving a single person alone inside while this is going on. It gets ****ing old. When he applies himself, the guy is a ****ing whirlwind of productivity. I mean SHIT GETS DONE. No bullshit. We had a corporate visit recently and dude worked a 13 hour shift and did about a week's worth of projects in one double shift. I tried to explain that if he would simply apply a LITTLE of that every time he was in during the week, it wouldn't have to be like that all at once. But whatever. Its his barbecue. For now. Cutting someone loose because you cant handle the truth about your laziness is ****ing bullshit. Getting someone else to cut that person loose is some cowardly shit.
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Is there an HR department in your company? Most places don't allow solitary power like you're describing.
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11-15-2014, 10:55 PM | #13 |
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Well I get the morality of the situation, but this son of a bitch shouldn't be allowed to strike fear in his employees and get off without reprisal. There has to be another means to report the lack of managerial skills of this guy.
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Katipan's answer makes sense. The employee is going to be fired, and there is nothing you can do to prevent it. I'd be looking for a long-term exit strategy, but your hands are tied at the moment.
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That's bullshit. The man shouldn't be fired for speaking honestly. Heaven forbid if someone takes what most companies offer, which is an anonymous hotline to HR for just these types of situations.
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