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Old 11-16-2016, 01:12 PM  
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Old 07-19-2018, 11:26 PM   #61
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It's true that he refuses to kiss the media's ring on demand, which is good. The problem is that when he does idiotic stuff, which is a lot of the time, he gives the attack dogs in the media something real to latch on to.

You can't crap the bed in Helsinki and disparage the intelligence services that work for you and then claim that it's all fake news and the media is out to get you.

Crap the bed in Helsinki? What are you even talking about?

He pissed off Neocons, Never Trumpers, and Democrats and that constitutes crapping the bed in Helsinki? Those people lost. Their desperate grasp of the world is slipping away. Of course they're upset, but that doesn't mean MAGA stops rolling on. Trump did exactly what he needed to do in Helsinki.

The intelligence agencies are full of liars. Trump is working to liberate us from them and their lies. In the end they are the enemies of the American people. The people who go to congress, lie to their faces, get caught lying, and then go unpunished... These are the people's enemies. I can't think about Russia being an enemy until we clean out these people.
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Old 07-19-2018, 11:35 PM   #62
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And by the way, if you truly are terrified of Russia (for whatever reason, I'll give you the benefit of a doubt) but you were totally cool with guys who have National Security responsibilities lying to congress and getting away with it, then you own this. Your permissiveness and unwillingness to police the police are what made it possible for Americans to ignore you when "something important" came up.

It's the inverse of the boy who cried wolf.

The dopes that were cool with it...

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Old 07-19-2018, 11:37 PM   #63
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I'm so behind the times on terminology. I've seen people on here using "alt-right" and "alt-left" a lot. I had to do a search on what exactly they meant (I could tell through context, but was curious where the terms came from).
alt right = nazis

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Old 07-19-2018, 11:42 PM   #64
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Crap the bed in Helsinki? What are you even talking about?

He pissed off Neocons, Never Trumpers, and Democrats and that constitutes crapping the bed in Helsinki? Those people lost. Their desperate grasp of the world is slipping away. Of course they're upset, but that doesn't mean MAGA stops rolling on. Trump did exactly what he needed to do in Helsinki.

The intelligence agencies are full of liars. Trump is working to liberate us from them and their lies. In the end they are the enemies of the American people. The people who go to congress, lie to their faces, get caught lying, and then go unpunished... These are the people's enemies. I can't think about Russia being an enemy until we clean out these people.


The Cold War was over long ago, the nuclear threat is dead....resurrecting Russia and hacking as some kind of new boogeyman is a completely transparent ploy to gain more power over this country by the same globalist madmen who wanted to use 9/11 for political gain.
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Old 07-19-2018, 11:51 PM   #65
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...orchestrated 9/11 for political gain.
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Old 07-20-2018, 07:21 AM   #66
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Crap the bed in Helsinki? What are you even talking about?

He pissed off Neocons, Never Trumpers, and Democrats and that constitutes crapping the bed in Helsinki? Those people lost. Their desperate grasp of the world is slipping away. Of course they're upset, but that doesn't mean MAGA stops rolling on. Trump did exactly what he needed to do in Helsinki.

The intelligence agencies are full of liars. Trump is working to liberate us from them and their lies. In the end they are the enemies of the American people. The people who go to congress, lie to their faces, get caught lying, and then go unpunished... These are the people's enemies. I can't think about Russia being an enemy until we clean out these people.
Well said. Liberalism is America's #1 enemy.
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Old 07-20-2018, 07:25 AM   #67
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Old 07-20-2018, 07:41 AM   #68
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Crap the bed in Helsinki? What are you even talking about?

He pissed off Neocons, Never Trumpers, and Democrats and that constitutes crapping the bed in Helsinki?
No, he embarrassed himself and the country so precipitously in Helsinki that it's the first thing in years that conservatives and liberals have all agreed upon.

But, have we now moved from "If he's pissing off the libs..." to "If he's pissing off anyone who's not a Trumper..." ....?
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Old 07-20-2018, 10:04 PM   #69
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It's true that he refuses to kiss the media's ring on demand, which is good. The problem is that when he does idiotic stuff, which is a lot of the time, he gives the attack dogs in the media something real to latch on to.

You can't crap the bed in Helsinki and disparage the intelligence services that work for you and then claim that it's all fake news and the media is out to get you.
You keep posting silly shit like this when your #NeverTrump position gives you no credibility on the subject, and no clarity of thought. There is no bar to calling out the media because of the press conference, no matter how you try to find one. Even if Trump came out and said "Man, I ****ed up that presser", he'd still have plenty of bullshit news and media commentary on the subject that would be ripe for him to target.

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Old 07-20-2018, 10:54 PM   #70
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You keep posting silly shit like this when your #NeverTrump position gives you no credibility on the subject, and no clarity of thought. There is no bar to calling out the media because of the press conference, no matter how you try to find one. Even if Trump came out and said "Man, I ****ed up that presser", he'd still have plenty of bullshit news and media commentary on the subject that would be ripe for him to target.
Never Trump ended with the election. After that he became everyone's president, and we started hoping for the best, crediting him for what he does well and criticizing him for what he does wrongly. Attempting to influence the WH in key points and keep them on the reservation in others. Everyone is pro-Trump, or should be, in the sense that for better or for worse he's the president now and we want him to do well and succeed and keep his promises.

The people who are mindlessly lining up on a side to take positions without thinking are NOT the Never Trump conservatives. We are now back serving as voices of reason, applauding when he does something right (like with the Court) and standing up to say "No, we are not going to take up for you on this" when he really botches something like his meeting with Putin.

These are the people maintaining some island of credibility for the party and for conservatism as a whole, and for the American right being something other than a Trump apparatus.

The lack of credibility is found in the people who support him in every point, when his judgement is extremely questionable in a lot of areas.
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Well said. Liberalism is America's #1 enemy.
Stupidity is America's #1 enemy, and liberals do not have a monopoly on it.
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