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Old 07-18-2018, 02:04 AM  
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Trump & Russia - what we know

  • Russia stole a massive volume of information from the Democratic Party and the Clinton campaign, and used it to help trump win the election, deploying it at times designed to ensure maximum impact
  • Trump publicaly asked russia to hack Clinton's emails, and that's what they did the same day
  • Roger stone appeared to have advance warning of the release of the hacked emails
  • The top ranks of Trump's campaign showed clear willingness to cooperate with russian agents. His camapaign chair, son in law, and son, eagerly met with a russian operative who had promised some dirt on Clinton
  • Trump dictated a statement lying about that meeting
  • Trump fired the FBI director, initially lied about why, then went on TV and explained that he fired him to end the russia investigation
  • Trump has wanted to fire his attorney general for inadequately protecting trump from the investigation
  • In 2008, Trump's son said that they don't rely on American banks - they have all the funding they need from russia
  • Between 2003 and 2017, buyers from russia or the former soviet republics made 86 all cash sales of almost $109M at 10 trump branded properies
  • Trump's campaign manager (Manafort) was deeply in debt to a russian oligarch with close ties to putin, and when he was in charge of trump's campaign he asked this guy how he could use his position to get whole
  • Russia intelligence attack included extensive social media campaign, bots who elevated news stories helping trump and hurting clinton, and efforts to compromise state voting machines
  • Trump interfered with the RNC platform to soften the language on Russia and the Ukraine
  • Kusher sought a secret communications channel with the Russians, one that the US government would not be able to monitor
  • Trump fought tooth and nail against the sanctions passed to punish Russia for interference, he signed them and made a statement denouncing them, then waited as long as possible to enforce them
  • Trump's foreign policy moves, specifically his trashing of NATO, are consistent with Russian foreign policy objectives, not (historically bipartisam) American objectives
  • Trump insisted on the Helsinki meeting over the objections of his staff and without a clear agenda
  • Trump stood up in front of the world and said he believed the KGB officer over his own intelligence agencies. Agencies who were in consensus and have shown their work in countless indictments.

It's happened piece by piece by piece, but put together it's staggering. No reasonable person can look honestly at what we know about Trump Russia and conclude he's anything other than a Russian asset.
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Old 07-19-2018, 02:56 AM   #151
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I don't really disagree with the second one.

The first one is delusional.
So now you're a Russia expert?

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Old 07-19-2018, 06:32 AM   #152
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I have said from the start of this whole deal that I would like to shake the hand and buy a beer for whoever hacked/attained/leaked (whatever happened) the dirt on Hill dog. People are soooooo outraged that Hill's dirty laundry got exposed that they have forgot that it was HER dirty laundry.

But, with all that said, show me rock solid proof that Russia, or anybody for that matter, actually, physically changed votes or voted illegally, and I will flip my position. That should NEVER be allowed!! Somebody that just exposes a dirty politician should receive, as you suggest, a monument or a reward of some kind. That's Dem and Rep alike!
I gotta admit that I appreciate that suspected dirty people, and I mean DIRTY PEOPLE, we're exposed. Often overlooked here is how nothing short of Hillary admitting to everything was proof enough for liberals, now we're expected to accept that there was an election-changing level of hacking (that only exposed truths. EXPOSED!!!!!), without so much as providing a list of people who say they changed their vote. If the FBI has such a list and, again, can't publish it, well then they don't have a list.

If ANYTHING the truth-exposing operation failed badly because it was too slow to help Bernie get the Dem nomination that I'm sure he would have received.

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Old 07-19-2018, 06:44 AM   #153
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So, since we don't know if the language was softened or not (even though your boy says it was), I'd suggest you not assert that the language was not softened again.
Holy wow. You just said that. Debate 101 mega-fail^
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Holy wow. You just said that. Debate 101 mega-fail^


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Ok comrade
Liberals are the true Russian "comrades"!







You assholes sold this nation to the shittiest people in the world, all in hope of some "change"!

Great work dick-lips!
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